Zimbabwe officials thrash out details of deal

Just a point of clarification, the Zimbabwe economy was ruined a long time before the current so called 'crisis'. It has been a slow but progressive descent into economic collapse. I had thought that we were being told that there wasn't a crisis. The Zimbabwe economy will only recover when the integrity of its leadership is established both for the local people and the international community. If Zimbabwe tries to win the confidence with Mugabe still in the picture it will be like a person with no legs winning the Comrades marathon. Justice must be seen to be done, the perpetrators of past evils must be brought to book and all Mugabe's money and that of his robber henchmen returned to Zimbabwe! Remember Zimbabwe you were once one of the breadbaskets of Africa, not the basket-case you have become!

Ofcourse the people that count, ie the Zimbabwean people, are left out of being part of the talks. Who do politicians really think they are? There is no mandate from the people and therefore a more inclusive cross section of the people should have been invited to be involved. As usual, Mbeki does not include the real people but is of the obvious opinion that polticians are Gods gifts to mankind. Whatever comes out of these talks, the transition before the people get to vote into power the party and president that they really want, must be a short one. This Kenya and Zimbabwe type government in order to accommodate the losers of elections, is making the African continent look foolish and backward in the eyes of the rest of the world.

In the US, if one wins the 270 electoral votes will automatically win the Presidency. The electoral college versus the popular vote which should be the way? Any system which is seen as the best option is what should be taken. Why is that the votes count are done in secret? So I wonder why people continue to talk about crimes.

Sanctions put in place in 1998 taking section 6

SEC. 6. SENSE OF CONGRESS ON THE ACTIONS TO BE TAKEN AGAINST INDIVIDUALS RESPONSIBLE FOR VIOLENCE AND THE BREAKDOWN OF THE RULE OF LAW IN ZIMBABWE.

It is the sense of Congress that the President should begin immediate consultation with the governments of European Union member states, Canada, and other appropriate foreign countries on ways in which to--

(1) identify and share information regarding individuals responsible for the deliberate breakdown of the rule of law, politically motivated violence, and intimidation in Zimbabwe;

(2) identify assets of those individuals held outside Zimbabwe;

(3) implement travel and economic sanctions against those individuals and their associates and families; and

(4) provide for the eventual removal or amendment of those sanctions.

So were are the bank accounts.

To Frank Hartry, this does not help anyone. We should arrest any exporting country that seels weapons to conflict zones within Africa, as this is undermining democracy. Mark Thatcher should be brought to book, as he was funding a coup, which is similar to terrorism. The war in Georgia just shows us that The UN Security Council favours its permanent members. So France can built Nuclear Power stations in South Africa and UK is okay, but others can not develop that technology. We are talking about being democratic, because fairness does not happen. So whats your suggestion of how to resolve a deadlock? Fighting is not an option.

These were the Presidential % as of March 29
Zanu -PF 43.2%
(1st round)

MDC-T 47.9%
(1st round)

MDC 8.3%
(1st round) .

Parliamentary results were

Shortly afterwards, final results for the House of Assembly showed the MDC (Tsvangirai) with 99 seats, ZANU-PF with 97 seats, the MDC (Mutambara) with ten seats, and one independent. Despite the MDC (Tsvangirai)'s lead in seats, ZANU-PF was credited with the lead in the popular vote, receiving 45.94% against 42.88% for the MDC (Tsvangirai), 8.39% for the MDC (Mutambara), and 2.79% for minor parties and independent candidates. ZANU-PF won an absolute majority of the popular vote in five provinces: Mashonaland Central, Mashonaland East, Mashonaland West, Midlands, and Masvingo. In Masvingo, although the party won 52.01% of the vote, it took only 12 of the 26 seats, while the MDC (Tsvangirai) won 41.61% of the vote and took 14 seats. The MDC (Tsvangirai) won an absolute majority in Harare and Manicaland. In Bulawayo, the MDC (Tsvangirai) won all 12 seats with 47% of the vote; it also led in Matabeleland North with about 37% of the vote. ZANU-PF won the most votes in Matabeleland South, but won only three seats; the MDC (Mutambara) won seven and the MDC (Tsvangirai) won two. So those are the figures as known. So when people are saying Tsvangirai won, which calculations are they using. As according to the results, Mutambara is the one who can tip the scales of balance. We should have the numbers to have the correct picture of the power brokers. So how do you solve that deadlock.