ANC and Lekota: The marriage sours

Talk about lies and contradiction. "Using ANC Structures to mobilize themselves" Isn't that what every single person in the ANC has done so far to get what they want?. This is actually quite funny coming from the horses mouth. And the whole deal with raising issues in Public, that is what democracy and transparency is, after all its the taxpayers money you are using to create these issues. The Taxpayer has a right to be informed about these issues. It is time the Government start answering to the taxpayer. And the dishonesty .. damn .. " the ANC believes political problems are not solved with disciplinary action" so what do you call that whole recall of the president.If that is not disciplinary action, then what is. Or is this just selective disciplinary action? If the ANC was democratic in any way whatsoever, they would not be threatened to the extent they are, and they would welcome some healthy democratic competition. It is clear at the responses though, that anyone trying to bring transparency, accountability to the taxpayer, and open debate to the anc is not welcome to the ANC.

AN ORBITUARY FOR OUR DEAR FRIENDS:

Dear comrade Lekota, Meluleki and Mbazima.

It was with great sadness that I received the news of your departing. You were all great soldiers of our movement and cvontributed selflessly to liberation struggle. We will surely meet again on the other side.

Sadly, I predict that no one will miss or remember you in the near future. The ANC you have left behind will remain there for a number of years. It's unfortunate that you will not.

Hamba kahle mkhonto!

Just leave without clamouring, you're taking advantage of ANC. Weeping in the grandstands and [in a process] profiling yourselves.
*sigh* such a waste of energy for a doomed-to-rot & evaporate wannabe anc party. Shall you continue to fail....

I agree with cyber dog There hs been campaings marches by SASCO Cosatu SACP to the courts night vigils before JZ appeared in court was that not using ANC structures to get the message accros that the ANC did not want JZ to go to jail
Why is democracy not for all then it is not democracy
Transperancy means being open about issues why shouldLekota and others not tell the world how they feel
People need to know cause it is not the ANC leadership tah is able to vote and get the party to become goverment but the ordinary man and woman out there they have aright to know who they empower who they give the power to to run their country.We live in a DEMOCRATIC country

It is about time. I am definate that there are thousands of South Africans who have been waiting an alternative. I am hoping that your party will prove to be that.

Will start campaigning for you. Free of charge by the way.

Careful Prez Zuma. I think you should haul Cde Terror before the desciplinary hearing since what he has done is discpicable. We have used ANC structures to load people to courts. How is Terror using the ANC structures to persue personal agenda?
Let the patience wear think and probably break soon. I think ANC is very worried that is the reason that they cant take disciplinary action against its "spoilt child" , Terror. Yes ANC has the reason to be worried and it should be !

Careful Prez Zuma. I think you should haul Cde Terror before the desciplinary hearing since what he has done is discpicable. We have used ANC structures to load people to courts. How is Terror using the ANC structures to persue personal agenda?
Let the patience wear think and probably break soon. I think ANC is very worried that is the reason that they cant take disciplinary action against its "spoilt child" , Terror. Yes ANC has the reason to be worried and it should be !

As the world looks on there is perhaps hope that at last the ANC will be challenged.

The views of South Africa becoming another Zimbabwe is way too sad and REAL democracy needs to be ALLOWED to operate and that includes the dismantling of racialism.

Regardless of what ANYONE tells you about the ANC or how they salute you and call you “comrade” it is all about performance and delivery and quite simply the ANC HAVE FAILED and continue to FAIL – THE PEOPLE.

There needs to be a political group that the people can vote for that is a unity ( mix) of black and white leaders and have the capability to lead and steer the country forward and take the rear view mirrors off. By that I mean stop referring to “the struggle”, that is gone, face the CURRENT STRUGGLE which is the mess CREATED BY THE ANC.

Get over the past and move on to a future for EVERYBODY – THAT IS – BLACK AND WHITE and the country will start to turn around. The current course South Africa is on is looking like Zimbabwe and look where that got them. Don’t waste time or your energy buying into the ANC racial election campaigns. Vote for these that really care about the people of South Africa not just the RICH FEW IN THE ANC and THEIR COMRADES.

'Terror' Lekota's statement was inspiring in the way that he articulated the principles around which the ANC was established, the same principles that the current ANC leadership have completely abandoned. However I am confused about what he is now actualy proposing. On ofthe face it, a new party will be established shortly...why then did he repeatedly suggest that no 'cadres' or 'comrades' should leave the party? He may actualy just be testing the water to gauge the viability of a new party. Anyway, any viable alternative to the current mob of leaders has got to be a good thing. Zuma, Mantashe,Phosa and Duarte have got to be the least inspiring leaders imaginable...and lets not forget that a court of law has already established that Shaik bribed Zuma (this is now a proven fact!), surely he cannot be allowed to ascend to the preseidency without providing his version of events in open court??

Viva Terror viva!

Lekota's party would definately be better than Ndimande's out of touch SACP.

If carrying out a war in the media is inappropriate, how about statements like "kill for Zuma" and demands that Mbeki should resign from the Youth League? I don't recall those being dealt with strictly through party structures.

For everyone developing angst over these developments: this is all NORMAL. In a democracy, people have the right to differ, and if the differences are extreme enough, to split from their previous organization and start a new one.

The only problem I have is that shallow pretexts and personalities appear to count for more than principles.

Lekota knows nothing, he has outdone hiself this time around, breaking all the rules and habits of the ANC of not going to the media if one has any grievancies. His foolishness was seen once again, he is working so hard to dig a hole for himself and his senseless followers. the policies he is so critical about are the same policies he help put in place while he was still chair of the movement because the new leadership of the ANC has not even began to impliment the Polokwane resolution.

Feels like the turning point to me. Just possibly the disaster which has taken place in SA has hit bottom. Onwards and upwards Terror; you have given us hope. The many in desperate need are waiting.

It is rather interesting that today after a long time of the oldest organisation on the continent to start favouring individuals who themselves were appointed by the ANC to bring a better life for all. It is common practice for individuals to be sour when their personal agendas are exposed. Those who followed the saga up to Polokwane would have noted that during Mbeki's reign power had been centralised around individuals and the organisation became less effective. This era allows the ANC which is the movement with policies that where rightly conceived at the right time to make this country right. We cannot now be taken to and fro by individuals with agendas and pride at stake and abandon a movement which as taken this country this far. For an African country and the kind of history we have I can admit that we have done well. Let us revisit ANC as a movement, which produced the best leaders of our time that most of us can relate to, that this country is still in good hands.

Comrade Lekota.. don't listen to the ANC anymore.. don't compromise.. you have rattled their nest.. its time to part ways, we have been waiting for this for a long time..

Create the party and give us reason to vote come next year..

VIVA LEKOTA.. MAYIBUYE.. Stop the COMMUNISTS..

Let me put my head on the block, Lekota and his cronies will not attract support from the working Class and the poor, I guess that they will be voted by a minority section of the middle class

Terror et al, are highly illdiscipline as evident in the manner they conducted themselves in the ANC over the past years, they have undermined the ANC internal democratic channels, but the ever sober leadership of the ANC has not yet taken action against them

Even a mere stupid can not vote for them given their bad track record in the ANC and its government, they nearly turned SA in to a banana republic ( unsecured borders, spiralling crime, xenophobic attacks, hiv/aids etc,etc)

Terror and King Thabo inherited a united ANC from Mandela and began to divide it by trying to centralise it and suppression of dissent and oppossing views as if the ANC is their fiefdom, they labelled certain leaders as "counter revolutionary" or "ultra leftists"
They dealt and alieneted many committed comrades in the ANC including Winnie Mandela and Tokyo Sexwale.
Suprisingly, now they want to blame the current NEC for the divisions initiated and completed by them, if Mbeki was a good leader he should have healed the movement as a president and a fatherly figure but he promoted his faction and purged his opponents who did not run away from the ANC to form a new party (because they are discipline)

anyway I wish them good luck in their dream to win the elections and hold on to power since they think that the electorate are their voting cows who will provide them with employment after they have been trashed by delegates at polokwane

To the right wing bloggers who are blaming the NEC for Terrible Terror's actions, I can only say "u are opportunists who are very afraid of the ANC hence your support for comical terror here but truely speaking your hearts are with the DA" and other right wing organizations.

Lastly, since Terror have repeatedly berated us and JZ in particular for singing "umshini wami", how does he feel about the name "Terror"? is it not outdated given the activities of Al-Qaeda and the fear instilled arond the western worl? is it moral and exemplary to the youth?

Zuma ANC should stop criticizing Terror and friends, we all saw these coming, had President Mbeki won the Polokwane, similar situation was going to happen in any way, instead of uniting the organization Zuma and his corrupt team are further making it worse, if Terror is confused then the whole ANC is confused including Zuma, this is the price they were looking for, some of us we were not going to vote but now we are encouraged. if ANC thinks that these is a joke, come 2009 they will be proven. Go ahead Terror you already have my vote plus 10 of those that i already recruited.

Mr. Lekota we will support you and we are going for a win... watch this space