Growing fears of Zim collapse

What?

I thought Zim had collapsed long ago? If anyone is under any illusion that Zim is still a viable proposition, they are sorely mistaken. Once again, it will be left to the US and EU to bail out another African dictatorship's humanitarian mess.

Ho Hum....

"Zuma said it was clear that Zimbabwe's crisis had deteriorated to such an extent that there was an urgent need for action."

What profound words of wisdom. Clearly Zuma is a wise statesman and will be a most fitting leader for our country.

The power struggle is not between Mad Bob and Morgan Tsvangirai, which the press keeps stating. It is a struggle between Bob and the people. Does anyone really think that if Morgan Tsvangirai accepted Mugabe's demands that things would get better. Why on Earth are Tsvangirai and Mugabe referred to in the same breath as being equally obstructive in their negotiations. How swiftly some South Africa forget their own struggle for freedom. Would Madiba have accepted what Mugabe offers?

What I cannot fathom, is why Sadec, and more importantly, South African politicians, not see the damage Robert Mugabe is doing to this country, and the region. And why they still tolerate him.
The ordinary people there has lost everything. For heavens sake, the man has been in power for almost 30 years. Why would they still want to prop up this dictator, by wanting to negotiate him back into power?

He blames everyone but himself, for his countries ills.
He should be told in no uncertain terms, that his time for running this country like his personal 'fiefdom' is over, by Sadec and the world.

How terrible for the long suffering people of Zimbabwe, what a toothless disgraceful bunch the ANC are to allow the situation to degenerate into total collapse. Where are you now Mr. Mbeki have you no shame. One thought this maybe one time where Zuma or Mothantle may make a difference but Alas they are all cut of the same cloth, the politicians are continuing to destroy Africa it will never change.

This really shows that the South African government is on top of things. Mbeki is negotiating still yet, and Zuma is talking about collapse. What could possibly happen that is worse than bogus elections, voter intimidation or execution, "waiting and seeing", the African Solution, simultaneously blaming the west for the situation and for withholding (5 million proposed for food aid, 3 million Zims in SA?). At this point, to go on and ask for a role from the South African government, say with the Zimbabwe cholera outbreak, much less Zim food production, is asking too much. Not to be disrespectful, but it seems that there is no SA government role in Zimbabwe to date.

ZANU-PF committed suicide in 2000 when they misjudged that they could get rid of commercial farmers and survive. The stink emanating from that country is the rotting corpse of that regime. The elders (Undertakers) came to give the Mugabe regime a proper funeral. The "Dead Man Walking" regime has spurned this gracious attempt. Now they will be given a pauper's funeral No mourners. No marked grave.
The only pity is that they are taking thousands of innocent Zimbabwean souls with them!

zim collapsed years ago.Well, sadly,the African leaders' definition of collapse is genocide-when a million people die enmasse,otherwise nothing moves these politicians.

When Zimbabwe explodes into chaos, who like the Emperor Nero of Rome will be watching the spectacle and playing their fiddles? I guess yet again it will be the ANC government, without political will and devoid of principles, will be fiddling... maybe like Mbeki they have been fiddling all along just hoping that we won't notice. The SA government will stand condemned by the world and by the people of Zimbabwe for being so ineffectual, incapacitated and unprincipled. The weight of human suffering and death will rest on their consciences. Everyone who knew about the situation and did nothing will carry the burden of guilt. When it comes to making a stand, why we are being so totally flaccid and impotent?

It is important that everybody realises that the mess in Zim is of Mugabe's and his Zanu-pf's making. Many times one sees people, perhaps because there is a desperation to get the agreement working and save people from suffering, an attempt to assign joint culpability to both Zanu-pf and MDC. Indeed in some cases some people have been hoodwinked, and led by the Zanu-pf propaganda machine, into seeing MDC as the stumbling block. The truth of the matter is that if no agreement is reached on the allocation of ministries, the situation in Zim will worsen, but we all know that Mugabe is the one in power and he bears responsibility for the state of the country and its people. Blaming sanctions as he has been doing is utter rubbish and he should now know that only fools believe that fib. Rhodesia under Ian Smith was under sanctions for more than 12 years but the country never half descended to the shameful state it is now. Salvation for Zim will only come through Divine intervention of some gigantic proportion (including "only God can remove me")because the people have been so cowed and emasculated they can't rise in masses against the regime, and elections are a waste of time because the same masses will be beaten into voting for a leader and party that is starving them, or if they vote against them, the ruining party will not leave office, using military intimidation to subdue the populace.

To Henry Muvuya. THE Morgan Tsvangirai-led MDC this week said it will press for the establishment of a transitional authority if the power-sharing deal with Zanu PF falls through.

The deal -- which has been in limbo since it was signed on September
15 -- ran into fresh problems this week after the government drafted
Constitutional Amendment No19 and sent it to the pact broker, former South African president Thabo Mbeki, without consulting the MDC formations.Before the furore over the constitutional amendment, the pact signed by President Robert Mugabe, Tsvangirai and Arthur Mutambara of the other formation of the MDC had failed to fly over allocation of ministerial portfolios.

Nelson Chamisa, the spokesperson of the MDC-T, told the Zimbabwe
Independent on Tuesday that his party has a Plan B if the power-sharing deal collapses.

He said the MDC would mobilise Zimbabweans to demonstrate against
Mugabe's regime and press for a transitional authority.Chamisa said the party would work with civic society and other democratic organisations to achieve the Plan B.

"If the talks fail, the MDC will work together with other
organisations in the civic society and other parties and make sure we create circumstances and conditions that make it possible for the creation of a transitional authority," Chamisa said.He said the transitional authority, to be made up of political parties and civic society, would be mandated to address the humanitarian crisis in
the country and to depoliticise national institutions.Chamisa said the authority would also craft a democratic and people-driven constitution.

"The new constitution will pave the way for fresh polls that will be
supervised and managed by international bodies, namely Sadc, the African Union and the United Nations," he added.Chamisa said the resistance against Mugabe's regime would work this time around because of the suffering Zimbabweans have endured due to the economic meltdown."The fact that they (demonstrations) failed yesterday doesn't mean they will fail today," Chamisa said. "It is the people who are telling us as the leadership what direction to take, whatever we are doing is coming from the people."

So when demonstrations are going on anywhere in the western world, it is only cleared by the Police, and without Police clearance those demonstrations can not proceed. So why should Africa be asked to have different rules, under a label called DEMOCRATIC EXPRESSIONS, FREEDOM MARCHES? These are facts. One need to show a complete map of the route of the march and the guidelines which are to be followed as laid down by the legislators. In Africa, it has to be chaotic and the media will have a field day. We should know better.