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ANCYL: 'We'll never incite violence'

FIENIE GROBLER | JOHANNESBURG, SOUTH AFRICA - Nov 25 2008 10:14
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African National Congress Youth League (ANCYL) leader Julius Malema has apologised for creating the impression that he was inciting violence with his "kill for Zuma" statements, a spokesperson confirmed on Tuesday.

"People are uncomfortable with the way in which we have spoken before and we are indeed very, very sorry for that," said ANCYL spokesperson Floyd Shivambu, a day after the national executive committee of the ANC met and discussed, among other things, Malema's controversial statements.

Shivambu confirmed that Malema's apology, in an interview on Talk Radio 702 on Monday afternoon, was in the context of his "kill for Zuma" statements.

"If we did sound like we're inciting violence, we are very sorry," Malema said.

"That was not our intention; we'll never incite violence. We will never do anything unconstitutional. We are law-abiding citizens of this country and we will protect the Constitution of this republic.

"We fought for it and we stand by it," said Malema.

He was replying to an SMS from a listener that stated: "Stop inciting violence."

Shivambu said that even though the ANCYL did not believe it was inciting violence with the "kill for Zuma" statements, it was sorry if that impression was created.

While the ANC has defended Malema, its president, Jacob Zuma, recently said he had advised Malema to stop making controversial statements.

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Malema's statements have been used as ammunition by ANC breakaway party, the Congress of the People (Cope), whose leader, Mosiuoa Lekota, has accused the youth leader of acting in an unconstitutional manner.

Malema last year said the youth league would kill for ANC leader Jacob Zuma. Since then, apparently after ANC leaders rebuked him in private, he has replaced the word "kill" with "eliminate" in similar statements.

More recently, Malema accused Northern Cape Premier Dipuo Peters of being "bought" by business.

He also called Cope co-leader Mbhazima Shilowa, the former premier of Gauteng, a "security guard" who had defaulted on child-support payments.

The ANC on Monday accused the media of "Malemaphobia" and said the only Malema statement it could find fault with was the "kill for Zuma" remark.

Meanwhile, Cope's youth leader, Anele Mda, is in hot water for saying South Africa would have a "government that is going to make raping official", referring to the rape charge on which Zuma was acquitted last year.

Cope is expected to issue a statement related to her remarks on Tuesday. -- Sapa
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Its late Malema, its late. we have moved to other parties and the reason you toned down or you was requested to say sorry was merely an election campaign to get votes.

We all know that truly you are not sorry and you just want our vote. we are giving other parties our votes. we cannot give you a vote for you to disrespect us.

Percentage Percentage on November 25, 2008, 10:54 am
too late!
son mpo on November 25, 2008, 10:59 am
Right, Julius. You are sorry. We'll believe it when we SEE it in your behaviour and your language.

Meanwhile, we'll wait and see...
on November 25, 2008, 11:35 am
Better late than never.

But the point to get is that opposition works.
Paul Whelan on November 25, 2008, 11:44 am
There is nothing of tremendeous value than a leader of the biggest Youth movement in Sub-Saharan Africa publicly saying "I am sorry". This adequately reflects the leadership maturity and not "ego based politics". We applaud you Malema and therefore accepts your apology without any reservations.

On the other side we recognise that some newly formed opposition parties might feel disarmed by your apology and a refreshed constructive criticism, however they are at liberty to excavate other excuses for their ill-considered grouping. ModiseMoi . . .
on November 25, 2008, 11:50 am
The YL apologized through SAHRC, but the media chose to quarantine that apology/explanation because "it would not sell the papers"...You nickpick what would be good for news, not what is (entirely) uttered by the speaker...
We're too smart to be fooled by twisted media...
on November 25, 2008, 12:04 pm
Malema, we're not idiots. You're too late, you did mean it, you meant every word, we did not misunderstand you, you were not 'taken out of context', you have cost your beloved party thousands of votes, your apology means nothing.
Rod Baker on November 25, 2008, 12:11 pm
whew! well I for one, feel much more reassured now.........

too late, and too predictable. The ANC has lost it's credibility already....
Nahor Ecnarraf on November 25, 2008, 12:18 pm
Malema is Cope, DA and ID’s biggest draw-card. Please don’t silence him. Please – rather encourage him to speak his mind. Free speech is after all, enshrined in our constitution but we may not be able to do it for much longer.

This election is the first where South Africans will be making a choice. Do we follow Kenya, DRC, Angola and Zimbabwe or do our voters start to think about the party they are voting for and make some serious decisions of their own.

Will our electorate vote for the hollow promise of free hand-outs or will they vote for a change and a move towards good governance. For example, do our people want Smartie box houses or real jobs with enough money to build their own homes. The over 1 million people who have lost their jobs since 1994 need to think this question through carefully…

And Malema can help them do this!
John Bond on November 25, 2008, 1:19 pm
Cde Julius has realized the damage he and Cde Mantashe have caused to the then beloved ANC. It's not enough to say am sorry about my utterances I made in june, it will be politically correct for the ANC Youth league President to use the same podium that he used to ursher those rhetoric utterances which undoubtably has the potential to a greater effect to incite violance in our society to go and swallow his controversial statements on the same podium not on 702 as that is a regional radio station is not found in limpopo or Mpumalanga.If Julius indeed associate with the people at the ground he will then know the greater impact of his statements across the country.The majority of the people in this country are still living in informal settlements where there is no proper sanitation, bad living conditions and many other unpleasent situations that you might think of... If people like Julius continues to make such statements he should know that 75% of the youth in this country is unemployed and they will do everything to try and better their day to day plight. Please Julius, calculate your moves or get the youth of this country to turn against you and the youth league. remember is the youth league and it's alliance that cotrols institutions such as umsombovu which studies in the past has shown that it was a futile excercise to have such an institution set up. You have also indicated that you will be setting up another institution which will be of msombovu's nature but it will be accessible at all the spheres of the government. I think that is just a clause in the ANC manifesto. I just hope that one day hope will prevail in you and the Youth League members to realize that the plight of the youth in this country lies in your hands. it does not help to address a few hundred fortunate youth who can manage to avail themeselves at your rallies whereas hundreds of thousands of the Youth in this country are scattered in the streets trying to make a living. Please wake-up and smell the coffee. And as an effort for the youth league to try and move away from engaging the youth on the real issues even it's(ANCYL) email address does not work, you cannot be contacted at your offices...Get it to work so that we can engage the league and give the direction it has to take in terms of addressing the chaallenges that faces the people it claims to represent.
Seathane Peter Ramalema on November 25, 2008, 1:21 pm
This is not true, Malema was on SAFM today and mentioned that he will never apologised for that statement. i think you should try to get his comment, not the spokeman.
ntombi mqolo on November 25, 2008, 1:23 pm
Well done Julius. Your apology should be accepted unconditionally.

Papers like the M&G, Sunday Times and those in the Independent stable, that have a hatelike obsession with Malema, should realise that the masses don't read their newspapers. In fact these liberal media misguidedly think that they can influence the real public discourse from a minority perspective. Look at their circulation figures and it becomes clear that the masses don't buy these papers.

Their propoganda against the ANC are just a waste of time and paper and I would suggest that they should rather try and write about the failures of Mbeki, Shilowa and Lekota's policies.

They hate the ANC so much that I it is simply beyond me that they do not even reasearch Lekota's undemocratic tendencies whilst he was ANC chairperson. He was the third most senior person in the ANC and now he wants us to believe that he is fighting for the Constitution. Despite 14 years in power and a majority in Parliament, the ANC has never indicated of tempering with the Constitution. But truths like these never find their way into our so-called indepedent press.
Freddie Fillis on November 25, 2008, 1:44 pm
I so wish I was there at the Truth and reconciliation, so I could also say to the pertatrators who commited all those heinous crimes asking for clemency - "its too late". Malema is after all like any human-being, allowed to make mistakes and I think he is a better man for apologizing.
Prodigal Comrade on November 25, 2008, 2:27 pm
Unfortunately, Mr Malema your words have fallen on wrong ears. As we speak,parts of KZN (presumably not the only province), people have already said that they will "kill". I'm not sure if ANC will go all out instead of using the media to tackle this issue before violence erupted.
Setshaba Khanye on November 25, 2008, 3:15 pm
Please don't include me in ' we applaud you Julius ' !
I might have given Malema a second thought if he had said 'I am sorry' - not 'We are sorry'.
As it is , this is just an extremely transparent attempt to say what voters want to hear and stem the stampede away from the ANC. How many votes have you cost your party ?
Dave Lee on November 25, 2008, 5:09 pm
Sorry Malema,you are too late why did you wait for your ANC NEC to reprimand to apologise. This NEC is also in denial and keeps on saying your are being belittled and there is malemaphobia whiles you yourselves accepying that were wrong and inciting violence.

People in Thabazimbi are tired of you Maleme,Mantashe and Zuma.You better go to another place for votes,we are tired of your insults,lies in denial.

Bapsy-Thabazimbi
Rapula Mogorosi on November 25, 2008, 5:27 pm
Better late than never! Well done ANCYL!! Some have moved on and formed a new political party without apologising to the public for the gross mistakes they committed while running their respective portfolios and ministries for more than 10 years. The people of Khutsong deserves a huge apology.
COLLIN ZWANE on November 25, 2008, 5:32 pm
one said "NEVER SAY NEVER" I belive this is a good start for our president, Comrade Malema to understand what the republic want. An apology is what is normal and usual. Thankx for an apology Comrade Julius.
Cde Monwai Nonkula on November 25, 2008, 7:42 pm
Mine is just to commend a dignified stance that has been taken by the ANCYL president of apologizing and I believe there is no other scapegoats that the oppositions will use on their campaign as the main reasons for other’s to resign form the ANC was sighted to be your statements hence you have assisted mushrooming and old opposition parties to have at list a critical item to discuss on their agenda. Your apology will hamper the campaign and the debate of opposition parties as they have failed and they are still failing to present constructive alternative policies. Maybe the ANC has to develop a programme of employing all these parties to assist on implementing the current strategies as for their existence is underpinned by personal differences with certain members of the movement. Your apology is highly accepted and we would continue to support the ANC as the party successfully managed the previous political quandary that aimed at making or unmaking ANC. One thinks that the ANC ought to be proud of, its ability to develop leaders with audacity to stand by themselves whenever they feel that they are adequate enough to stand by their feets i.e. Cope, UDM etc. These are the instances that should make the ANC proud and as we move forward it will continue to happen as people have different aspiration, personal values; principles and zest. We still have a long way to go, we need vigilant type of cadres who will always remind the nation about our shared vision of ensuring a real economic emancipation that is driven by African Leadership and African values. We need a party that will continuously remind those who swiftly succeed along the journey that before they are CEO’s, middle class of this world; they are mebers of the community. We need the party that will ensure a better life for all regardless. That is the ANC!!!!
Nhlakanipho Chiliza on November 26, 2008, 11:17 am
NO THANKS,TOO LATE we have already moved on!
mdhluli mtlhakaza on November 26, 2008, 1:05 pm
The first and most important point is in regard to the statement, "We'll kill for Zuma". Not only does it incite violence, but clearly states that violence will be used to end the lives of people who are or are not in agreement with Jacob Zuma. To then say that you will never incite violence is ridiculous, as you have already stated the degree of violence you are prepared to use. It would be wonderful if an apology could include the realisation that you have incited violence and apologise for that. I think that the ANCYL have once again side-stepped the issue and not taken full responsibility. There is nothing wrong with admitting guilt for making such potentially disastrous statements, however there is something wrong with denying wrong-doing and passing the responsibilty to those interpreting your comments.
julian blaauw on January 19, 2009, 5:31 pm
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