Take2: Julius is my bitch

A racist Zille thinks that Africans can't manage anything, if we look at her WC cabinet anyway. Such a fake.

Malema is right, at least there should have been a darkie occupying one of those economic portfolios.

Frankly the ANCYL should be disbanded, commission of enquiry held into the mismanagement and those with long fingers brought to book as should be the standard of any irregular dealings by any person or association in SA...that's the standard...on the matter of Youth's League I would like Moxster and his mates to tell me where in the world do a political youth orgainsation have such high powered and financially rewarding roles...especially when our youth are being dessimated by AIDS, Education is at all time low, social violence and unemployment horrendous etc etc...these youths have no moral leadership to look up to...just bring me my machine gun...eish...blue label and party the night away...real thrid world trash bro's....no class (pardon the pun!!)

Black kids may aim higher than Malema… but I doubt it.

Graft has made Malema richer than he ever dreamed. His dumb rhetoric and his antics have given him celebrity attention and he is hero worshiped by the local youth in my community. Everyone wants to be a Malema Mini Me!

What future our once great country?

White kids look at Gill Marcus and shudder "I don't want to be like THAT! Ugh!"

oh come on, John. There are many fantastic kids who are aiming to, and will, do fantastic things in this country, don't generalise. That's my job.

Interestingly no one remembers Tito Mboweni? Shame. I thought he was quite good.

@Siphiwo: The previous ANC led Cape Town Municipality appointed Majority Black South Africans as city manager and chief financial officer. Now it seems they have been implicated in corruption and mismanagement in the N2 Gateway Project. Financial positions need to be held by people who are corruption free and know how to manage. Black South Africans need to learn this, and there are Black South Africans that can be trusted. Tito Mboweni is one of them

i personally think that the man's gratuitious utterances has a tremendous influence in the emancipation of black people.It might not be crystal clear to wisdom of his speeches due to the manner in which he utters them.However,it's not about the words sometimes but the manner in which you say something.

Come on Chris, I expect better from a person in your position (Journalist, columnist, whatever it is your position is). To use Lembede as an example of why Malema's utterings are flawed smacks of being a red herring. He is after all the same person who brought about the Audit of Lembede. Your argument basically says because Lembede's board was allegedly corrupt in its dealings and because the board was composed of 'African Children' therefore Malema shouldn't be calling for an 'African Child' in one of the strategic economic portfolios. Why? I am sure at no point in his delivery did Malema suggest one of those board members for the posts. Are you saying that baord represents all 'African' Children? Surely there exists non-corrupt and qualified 'African' Children out there for some of the positions in these portfolios? Sure Malema has shot from the hip at times, but that shouldn't be used to try an nullify a valid question.

Alas, I would like to declare that Siphiwo Siphiwo "service delivery in my poophole" is now, officially, unquestionably and irrevocably, the stupidest person alive.

But I digress.

100% for ANC
20% for Woodwork

You go, guy.

Very amusing but it's a two edged sword you tread as with your very lampooning of the man you manage to maintain his media presence. Sadly as an ex-pat looking in from the outside it's all to obvious that for all his ludicrous pontifications a LOT of people take this guy seriously. Let's not forget that kids by their very nature are stupid. OK maybe not stupid but rather inexperienced, lacking in life skills, eminently suggestible and easily impressed by mindless rhetoric. The more he is allowed to spew forth his ill considered and very often racist, xenophobic, sexist claptrap the more of the 'youth' he will win to his side. We have already seen a man of similar mould elevated to the highest level in the country. It's a tough one for sure.

Perhaps his ilk should be on the receiving end of a few eggings as is popular with the Brits over here, as with the BNP's Nick Griffin recently. Hard to be maintain racist bravado when you're running for cover like a child...

Hey Siphiwo - get a life! I thought that all WCs are now open to whites and blacks and with the latter being in the majority, they use the WC more often than whites.

stack

mfximm...

@ Siphiwo Siphiwo

quite ironic that your M&G user name carries "service delivery now" and you are encouraging the idea that Julius Ma-lame-a is right?
The people have spoken, the ANC are in power, yet South Africa is in a shambles of a social-political situation.

Did you use Julius' crib notes in woodwork class?

This is an awesome article.

Simphawuoir

Sorry what was that? Errr..I don't speak Abbreviation. Not quite sure what they teach you there in Black Panther Rhetoric 101, but uh..is mfximm code for "I want to bumfinger Julius because I'm revolutionary like that"? Or rather subliminal racist messaging..? "De whites dey are verree verree bad, dey are being too clever-est for us, we must take cunt-trol wiff de masheen gun"

I just knew it!

Siphiwo Siphiwo said "A racist Zille thinks that Africans can't manage anything, if we look at her WC cabinet anyway. Such a fake.
Malema is right, at least there should have been a darkie occupying one of those economic portfolios."

Interesting that Zille and Zuma BOTH seem to have excluded "darkies" from some key roles.

Ignoring the merits of those actions for the time being it is interesting to look at Siphiwo's reaction. Zille is racist according to Siphiwo whereas Zuma is only wrong.

Siphiwo said "mfximm..."

What are you mumbling about now.

Sheesh. On the other hand, comments like those by Stack Shot Billy aren't exactly helpful. When considered debate stops going belly up to overly emotive quasi racist statements then perhaps South Africa might stand a chance of getting somewhere. Based on the childish rantings from both camps on this board it looks that may be a helluva long way off.

Siphiwo was talking with his mouth full!! Or maybe he had his head down a WC to see if he can manage that...

At least it is clear that Malema and Siphiwo are both equally racist! And I wonder if they share a brain between the two of them (well, not a whole one obviously!). Every time I read a Malema comment, and every time a read a Siphiwo comment it just becomes clearer and clearer that with these types of people around South Africa’s future is becoming dimmer and dimmer!

@Siphiwo The Western Cape's housing problem comes directly from the failed Eastern Cape province. It's a bastion of ANC power yet the people have been fleeing in droves. Why? How is the "development" coming along there? Which is more important? Service delivery or the colour of the skin of the person who delivers? @Stack Shot - leave the personal attacks.

@lexington - woodwork crib notes..hahahah brilliant!

@simpoohole, why don't you tell us, the M&G public, what you do for a living? Pllleaaaassseee say you are working for government. If you are, I doubly emphasize that this country has gone down ze shitter and will resume the act of cutting my head off with a spoon. WHAT HAS BECOME OF YOUR INTELLECT GUY. Please try and bring forth a clever argument, based on logic, not the typical, vomit-inducing, socialist propaganda speak you're so very fond of.

ʇunɔɐʇɐɥʍ

2 things white kids do aspire to:

Be as rich as Malema who never had to work for it
Be as bright as Marcus

2 things white kids don't aspire to:

Be as stupid as Malema
Be as ugly as Marcus

At least it is clear that Malema and Siphiwo are both equally delusional! And I wonder if they share a brain between the two of them (well, not a whole one obviously!). Every time I read a Malema comment, and every time a read a Siphiwo comment it just becomes clearer and clearer that with these types of people around South Africa’s future is becoming dimmer and dimmer!

With the contributions highlighted by many to this topic its better to sum it up as pure hatred to Malema.Why you had to waste your resources gunning and plotting to shoot the messenger?You have insulted him in your comments but the question still remains!This young man is very consistent many people thought that he will be silent in the Zuma administration but he has not loose focus.This is truly a young revolutionary leader.

what a sad story. Malema who is one brain cell away from being a plant is being crowned 'revolutionary'. It is clear that the boy is employeed to speak views of the same high ranked individuals who helped Zuma to power. Malema is merely a pawn, speaking to the crowds of angry masses who await for RDP houses and service delivery. the same masses, ma are used to channel their anger towards

@Stack Shot, grow up! @Siphiwo, stop saying people are racist, you are starting to sound like one. Malema is stupid, will forever remain so. Otherwise...wicked cool article bro!

Mr. Malema should be seen for what he is. he is a pawn of some high rank individuals (who have their finger prints on numerous corrupted deals like the arms deal) to speak views which his masters could not utter them selves. Malema might think he's 'revolutionary' but in truth he's just another aspiring politician with friends in high places who shield behind the boy to obtain leave way to conclude some more corrupted deals - like the nationalization of mines when Malema operates in that sector.
No wonder that the boy appeals to the ignorant and poor as they are the easiest crowds to persuade and can easily be channeled into any action of stupidity, i.e strikes, xenophobia.
We might think that Malema speaks for the sake of hearing his voice but there are definite hidden political agendas beyond his words..


as for siphiwo, I don't understand why you keep watering someone who is one brain cell from being a plant. ignore the guy until he'll fades away

Yeah Right Siphiwo Siphiwo. Zille can count 400 plus million of wasted, stolen money. It's not about racism, just straightforward counting. something perhaps Malema should have learned at the school where he did so badly.

i must start by saying i dont like julius malema but he's got a point if you look around not only in politics, the is a tendancy to look down on black people, take for instance the fhm most beautiful women in the world, have you ever seen a black women being choosen as the sexiest, gq always or maybe most of the time feature white models. im so dissapointed from chris and his biasness, just because limbede board was a jerk that doesnt mean all people people are jerks. if you carefully chose a right candidate for the job not because of his/her political cridentials then maybe black people will be respected/ seen as much cabaple as other races, take for instance phuthuma nhleko and look at what he has done with mtn.

The ANCYL is the training school for the future leaders. Here they stretch the mouth and shrink the brain. The reduced size of the brain is more functional and has shed the spare capacity that could be used on logical thinking, and serving the electorate. The more focussed brain can now dedicate all the capacity to developing methods of creating laws of entitlement for politicians. Once these laws have been passed, what they take is legal and entitled to. The school also train the partcipants in the one sided economy of not having to take responsibility for the inflow of funds. When the bucket is empty, with the increased vocal capacity, blame is apportioned to the legacy of the previous regime. This previous regime is also fast becomming a clouded issue. Was the previous regime, Mbeki, Madiba, De Klerk or the Groot Krokodil. By the way; Malema's mouth is so big, he can not fit it into a luxury sedan. He DEMANDS 2 convertables, how about the new XK jag.

I thought it was a brilliant article. Sorry Chris, but the comments were a lot more entertaining.Btw, i loved your articles on IOL too.If someone could please explain how Zuma and Malema got to get the black majority to believe what they said i would be eternally gratefull.It's almost Hitler-ish. Siphiwo - Shame!

Malema gets people talking, I like it sometimes. But I feel he should use his position as political youth leader to engage with youth to resolve real issues facing the youth..

sthembele kwezi
The most likely winner of Miss UK is a black woman athlete. The most famous UK model is black. The leading UK attorney, Baroness Scotland, is black. Probably the most admired female star in the world is Tina Turner. Where do you get your data?
Finally, please get the ANCYL to look to its origins. Dr William Nkomo was one of the first chairmen. A more honourable peacemaker and opinion-former would be hard to find. What has happened - besides Brett Kebble?

Guys, there is a line that one should not cross. To those who referred to Gill Marcus and her looks, shame on you!! Whether Julius is an idiot and/or racist or not, we can discuss at length, but I to compare the two in the looks department is plain wrong and silly.

despite the delivery of malemas comments which are lacking in eloquence and the refined type of language that white whiners are comfortable with they are often substantial representations of the way that disenfranchised marginalised youth feel. Ofcourse more black people in positions of power would be an inspiring presence to young black people. transformation is a numbers game. the percentage of black people in power, black people with economic power and black people who are land owners is the real answer to where we are. The people that constantly mock malema for his personal peculiarities miss the issue. Untill there is real ownership on teh part of black people from any political persuasion his comments will not be irrelevant.

and the people on tehse forums, those ever complaining champions against corruption, inadvertenly re-inforce, sometimes very thinly veiled that they think black people are incapable in so many ways.
just read the comments, and determine wether the çonstant refernce to a duped ignorant mass is not insulting, and derogatory.

I just love Malema... and reporting on him. He opens the doors to the unacceptably sayable and the acceptably unsayable. And why not? After 14 years of crony commission agent capitalism at least someone is shedding light on these issues so sensible people can discuss it - think of malema as the light that raises issues but is not actually the guru to lead the way... why is it that blacks are under-represented in economic governance at the DTI and Treasury? And why is it that Mboweni, who presided over the most volatile period in the Rands history is viewed as good - surely it is merit that also counts. And there are enough black people to fill the post, but the "yes-black-baas" culture that mbeki created and nurtured marginalised those blacks who could rise up on merit. That is the problem with corruption and "baas-boy" management style - the crap floats. But we must remember that creme also rises to the top! Black people must have a large stake in the economy - it is the only way for stability. But this kleptocratic "don't have a clue" "baas-boy" management of the economy must stop if we are to get anywhere... governance is not about shopping, it is about sewage, water, farming, rail, taxis and all that jazz... and we can do it!

Pray tell me what the South African definition of an "African Child" is or is the "Rainbow Nation" talk all rhetoric when it is convenient or really for the consumption of other people? Was Mboweni not an "African Child" and is this new Governor not "African Child" enough? I will welcome a time (naive as some people will call me)when people will be appointed to positions on the basis of their competence and not just the pigmentation.

And to Mduduzi Phiri, the fact that Malema is still a loose cannon does not a revolutionary make. We have had our own version of revolutionaries in Zimbabwe who have led us into the pit with that song of being revolutionaries. Personally that expereinec is enough is to last me many lifetimes.

malema

john these people you are talking about are not south africans.

It is so interesting to look in on the banter from an outside POV. You guys are empowering this siphiwo siphiwo character by allowing yourselves to bite his bait. He is borderline braindead, agreed, his life-support system is at severe risk with the Eskom strikes approaching a new climax; so rather leave it up to the 'will of the people' to decide on his imminent future. What is happening in our magnificent country? why can't we simply empower people according to ability and skills. Why is it so important to acknowledge the race card at every opportunity, and I am referring to Malema and the ANCYL. The people need to trust their leaders. We should not have to spend our energy criticizing and defending incompetence. Malema please, do everyone a favour, carve a coffin, climb inside it, and close the lid. Its lonely in there isn't it... its also scary, and makes you feel a little claustrophobic. Your comments are suffocating the nation, starving us of logic and burrying every South African, regardless of race, in humiliation and regret.

Malema - Stupid and uneducated. Careful he does not mess up South Africa

Yo ho ho! Have a Low-Flyer and soda on me Chris, and a beer of yr choice in the left hand. Wot a pleasure it is to have you as editor of our favourite online paper! Wot larks! Wot fun to see the humours and the non-humours scrumming in here! I shall look forward to my daily portion of Ropering prose.

http://editorsclub.ning.com

Fact is, there are hundreds of Blacks who can do these jobs. Problem is that they don't belong to the ANC. No ANC member, no job!

South Africa can be run very well by Black people, but not by the ANC. The ANC is the problem, not Blacks.

It is clear it is a tight race between Siph and Malema are about the stupidest reading in the SA press. Luckily Malemas' overt racism, advocacy of violence and well recognized incompetency provide us with disbelief and as well humorous relief, despite the seriousness of the situation. Syphilis Syphilis is a contagion deleteriously infecting open commentary on a daily basis, a fly that will not go away.

What is of concern is that the ANC and its supporters have become much more racist than in 1994. Whatever became of the noble words "...non racial, non-sexist.."?

Julius Malema is a WHITE man. He drives a white man's car, wears white mens suits and drinks white man booze. His "you should do this and that" opinions are like those of Verwoerd & Co (derived from the fantasies of apartheid).

I am so tired of these whites.

What a disgraceful character - nothing funny about him. Why don't the press ignore him altogether - Another example of what Africa is the laughing stock of the world

The article amusing - the comments disturbing. Why such vitriolic and juvenile attacks on each other? The lack of brains seems to me to be more evident in most of the accusatory and racist comments from the whites. Just wonder why they still live here if they are not prepared to be conbstructive and build up people who were excluded for so long. Agree we should stand up to corruption, but lets do it together - South Africans of all races agree on that. And there was plenty of corruption in the old govt too with no-one daring to stand up against it). Now at least its out in the open.

So much hatred here...

Is it true - Can someone please confirm this allegation ?

"Graft has made Malema richer than he ever dreamed."

Is this matter being investigated by the ANC, ANCYL and the police?

Hilarious article. Well done! By the way - I called the ANC offices and asked to speak to someone from the Youth League. I pretended I was a teenager - a white female teenager and could I please join? I was told that no, I would not be comfortable there.

Interesting...

mmm, maybe Malema posts here under a 'secret identity'

Funny 1

Liberation before Education = Julius Malema. Exactly