ANC condemns Semenya gender row

AWESOME! And what a time!

The questions of her gender was just a ploy by the Ozzies to pressure her into choking at the big stage.
True to black-man's resilience she has disappointed all critics.
The Proteas could learn a thing or two from her and props must go to the U.Pretoria's high-performance centre.
The Dept of Women has once again shown how useless it is ,as it seem all they do is yak and yak on. What is their actual mandate and what does the minister do in a typical day.

As for khongolose commenting on this ,it was not they job to do and they should separate themselves entirely from the responsibilities of the Govt.While very many of us did vote for them ,not all of us did. Thus the only united voice which must come out is that of the government.
Anyway I must commend Luthuli house for scoring some free publicity on an internationally prominent story, smart.
Otherwise the usual suspect/s(DA and now Shikota) were ready to strike!

Look, let's be honest...there are quite a few close shaves here..!!

If she is indeed a girl and I think she is (please!!!)...it was massive to see her turd all over those other hackers...she is possibly the next best thing to Maria Motola...I was breathless seeing her (?) perform!!!

But what has this to do with the ANC...let them manage their atrocious service record...you don't hear from them on their afrimative action stance just like govt...anyway stay out of sport you clowns!!!!

It is very puzzling to have the questions of such nature especeially coming to south African woman because she is having muscles than any orther woman but when marion jones run no one said she is a man and other woman who have muscles who are atheles. This degrade the intergrity,capacity of woman in general and potray woman to be always be behind in improving thier abilities.

Make us even more proud Semenya!

Keep politics out of sport. PLEASE.

Craig....We had enough of your total disrespect, rudeness and anti-african agenda! There is no such thing as a "close shave"! Are you her parents, to know her gender? Your racist rhetoric is a disgrace and it demonstrate your lack of debating an issue at hand! Just like your party, the DA who oppose anything just for the sake of opposing, you cannot even for once demonstrate common decency and stick to the issue at hand! I find it astonishing that you are still living in this country, a country and its leaders you clearly despise. You must remember, this country is run by an ANC govt. and it has a right to comment, whether you like it or not! Get use to this or leave! It seems you simply don't have the "requisite skills" to make a living outside this country!

Keep politics in sport! for this case. It is shear outrage that a sex determination test has been called for..There are plenty of women with male physique, yet the IAAF remained quite. What would they do if the tests are inconclusive? If for sake of argument, phenotype female and genotype male, are they going to suspend her? If both phenotype and genotype female, are (IAAF) they going to compensate for psycologic trauma they placed this girl thru? Where are all th good lawyers? This girl needs you..

May I remind all those loudmouths that are questioning the ANC's statement on Golden Girl Caster Semenya, as to who the ruling party of this country is. That's right, you noise-makers. So zip it!

The ANC has a duty and a responsibility, as a political party that runs this country, to come out vigilantly in defence of any of our country's citizens that is subjected to an injustice anywhere in the world. The Government has its own executive responsibility in that regard and will pronounce separately each time. And who runs the Government? I cannot hear you, Craig Smith?

We cannot have some DA monority party yapping along and issuing statements on matters of international importance. What gives it the authority to do so? And on whose behalf will they be issuing those lousy statements? The 16% of electorate. Please!!!

Only the governing party has a legitimate right and an authority to make such pronouncements. You know why? Because 12 million voters say so. And the majority rules and rules okay. So all you envious bunch out there, you better shut it right now.

To Caster, we say, stand tall and proud, girl! You are a World champion. And no-one will ever take that from you. Let them do those stupid tests, but we will not standby and allow them to abuse you. We will rise as we do.

We love you and we support you. God will deal with those evil-doers who have set out to persecute you and destroy your spirit.

Today's golden girl, tomorrow's forgotten girl? Whether she is black or white or any shade in between does not matter, politicians the whole world over concentrate on winners in sport or otherwise of-the-day to turn the attention away from their own performance. Which in many cases is as dismal as the sporters' are exellent. The ANC is no different. But don 't say this aloud as you might be called a racist, at least if you are white. Otherwise it does not matter. Well done Semenya!!! Enjoy the moment. We hope to hear more of you.

Man, I feel like a woman.......

"May I remind all those loudmouths that are questioning the ANC's statement on Golden Girl Caster Semenya, as to who the ruling party of this country is. That's right, you noise-makers. So zip it!"

Wow!!!! Who is the imperialist now, shame on you have you learnt nothing from the past. Freedom of speech brother, and I will DIE fighting for it, you get that? Besides ANC keep your grubby paws off this topic, you have no relevance here. Get back to those election promises and start delivering.

Sinudeity @gmail.com

it's called support not politics!! if mandela and mbeki were at the stadiums when the Springboks won the 2 World Cups then there is nothing wrong with the ruling party rallying support for an athlete competing to make us proud...

your patriotism is questionable!! i think u should leave politics out of Sports!! it's about the athlete not the party...

"True to black-man's resilience she has disappointed all critics. ???"

What the hell is going on with the comments, where are the positive non racial South Africans?, I'm tired of the race haters, getting sick of this trivial race crap, tolerance and intelligence and learning from the past pretty please!

Freddie Fillis

craig and Sinudeity @gmail.com seem to forget that we have a Sports and Recreation Ministry in Gvmnt... pure ignorance...

I think some of you are a bit childish with your statements. Look anyone can pass congragulatory comments to our own great achievers whether it is done individually or any organisation be it a political organisation or NGO's any other. One person's good deed (achievement) internationally is a good deed for all of us.

So this thing of always fighting or arguing, to some they think it displays their high intellectual capacity but to us it is like people are diplaying how foolish they are. So it is important to note that whether you are ANC, DA or any other organisation, you are still South African and some people spent all the time before elections talking about the rule of law, part of the law is to respect the electoral results isn't however to my suprise they are not instead they are so consumed with this thing of always criticizing and just trashing everything that is happening.

Look one is not prevented from doing so however let's rather do it constructively and provide alternative solutions, it will be highly urpising to discover that these people are never lift a finger in their own communities and nearby ones in assisting in the general problems that our people face. All they are good at is to write on discussion forums like this as if they care but they are not if you care you will do something rather being a loudmouth!!!!! And you will make a differnce and the government you so hate will meet halfway

I am amazed that this issue is receiving such unwarranted attention, so much so that the ANC had to intervene. I think that the Europeans(and all those who are question this girl's gender) cannot belive that you can have such raw talent coming out of Africa in Limpopo(and Moletsi of all places), so much so that it defies all sense of scientific reasoning, so the only explanation is that she is not woman. That is just so typical of these people.These guys do not expect anything good to come out of Africa. They spent millions of dollars training their athletes and then come this lady with no fancy coaches, and training facilities and performance enhancement drugs and she just makes all their efforts look ridiculous.and they can't stand her.

I say she must keep her head high, she has done us all proud

Gee wizz. Maybe everybody should tone down a bit, because this can become a real ugly business. We have a HUMAN BEING at the centre of the dispute, and I suggest let the sports people who carry the responsibility to solve the issue get on with their work and let them finish it in a quiet but speedy and thorough manner. And for the ANC (or whatever political party) to also jump on the bandwagon and broadcast their obvious biased conclusions before the facts have been established, is very ill-mannered. How must this athlete feel?

Come on guys. Stop moaning. Lets be proud that a South African has won, and lets ALL stand behind her as a nation. The government of any other country would do the same as the ANC has done in such a situation. Why does everything have to be a ANC did this and the DA did that situation? Rather use your energy to do something positive!

Spot on - SA needs to defend its own.

I think we should retaliate and question whether some of the other nations' male athletes are really women... :)

There are so MANY ugly british and australian girls ,you cant even tell the direction they are facing , please leave our new qeeun alone she is an african beaUty

I have been involved in athletics since 1955 and have seen wonderfully talented South African athletes perform well on the world stage. This young lass is, however, simply exceptional. She runs gracefully looking totally relaxed, is strong and fast and has a wonderful BMT.
She will go far and I predict she will be the first woman to break the 1 min 50 sec barrier, provided she is guided and managed carefully.So let us protect and nuture this precocious talent and simply be proud of a South African who has started a career in which she can dominate female middle distance running for some time to come. Allow her to be a great athlete who knows she has the support of all South Africans.

@Syph...fillis...listen bro..you're right...the ANC have every right to go on and question the international sports body..it's the sporting bodies who are wrong...of course...and whilst we are on the subject it's this colonialist mentality...yes the whole world are wrong and we the ANC are right...does this sound rational...not so sure..begs the question..so who the hell are the ANC..some revolutionary offshoot of a joke of an afro-russian accord...get real and learn some skills.....you missed my point muppet face...and so if she is a boy then what???...not that I think she is...she is world class unlike he ANC..all of a sudden the ANC want to associate with her...what about the people dying in rural areas of AIDS..but no..beetroot and onions...!!!No school certificates but this clown wants a bigger coat of arms...I'm still here since I take the government's money which you pay over (not sure though sicne you seem quite dof?? hence no income) and employ actually people of all race groups mostly non-white...get a like old lazy lion!!!!!!!!!!!!

She is a 'he',I have never in my life seen a girl like 'him'.It's simple let him/her undergo physical medical evaluation,gynocological,endocrinological.And also a psychologist and a gender expert.


Is he a man, who feel she is a woman or she changed gender.As for the ANC,they should just shut the fcuk up.This doesn't concern them at all.

Personally, I tend to see this as a violation of human right. Well it is not the fist time, IAAF trying to practice such an act. It started long time ago with the following people:

• Sisters Tamara and Irina Press won five track and field Olympic gold medals for the Soviet Union and set 26 world records in the 1960s. Their careers suddenly ended when they failed to appear for gender testing at its introduction in 1966.
• Princess Anne of the United Kingdom was the only female competitor not to have to submit to a sex test at the 1976 Summer Olympics in Montreal; as she was the daughter of the host country's head of state, Queen Elizabeth II, such a test was seen as unseemly. Princess Anne was a member of the UK equestrian team.
• Prior to the advent of sexual verification tests, German athlete Dora Ratjen competed in the 1936 Olympic Games in Berlin and placed fourth in the women's high jump. She later competed and set a world record for the women's high jump at the 1938 European Championships before it was revealed that she was actually a man named Hermann Ratjen who was forced to disguise his gender by the Nazis.
But the question we need to ask ourselves or the IAAF, our we not good enough to win such events? They should know better that as African we value our gender. I agree with the ANC by not condemning such an act from the IAAF. The IAAF needs to look at things from our perspective and stop being arrogant as this is an insult to the lady.

Gender verification, sounds scary. Just like HIV test to know your status, everybody need undergo gender test to verify whether one is female or male. I just learned with shock that physical genitalia is not a true determinant of gender.

I also want to know my status.

Fantastic Semenja, South Africa is proud of you! As for the politics, I think it is only just that the government congratulates her. As for other political parties, it’s a free country they can congratulate her or not! This is her moment, well done!

@ Craig when I was younger some old women I knew also had close shaves, perhaps electrolysis will help. Bet u know somebody that had that done and probably shaved her legs too. What about Martina Navratilova and the winner @ 1972 Olympic Games @ 800 Jarmilla Kratochvilova ! Did you see some of those women throwin discuss and shotput !

This 18 year old woman has done us all proud! well done to Ms Semenya!

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/2596689/Caster-Semenya-faces-claims-she-is-really-a-man.html


Anyone interested listen to boygirl Semenya being interviewed.Come guys this dude or I mean girl looks and sounds like 'a man'.



Can't wait to see how this pans out.

I am astounded by the utter disrespectful attitude displayed against this woman athlete in the media. It shows up the media for what they are capable of - making a buck whenever it is possible. Shame on you!

2boy The One: I dont care, I would have told the DA the same thing, had they made noise. Keep politics out of sport!

Politicians ONLY interfere.

What does it help, the ANC shouting,
'she is a girl!', if the judges dont believe it.

The only proof, they have, is a test.

Not that we, as South Africans, need
verification for Semenya.

We know.

I am just as proud, as ANY South African,
of her achievement.

Im patriotic to South Africa.
You are clearly, patriotic to the ANC.

@jaycee van rooyen - you say: "And for the ANC (or whatever political party) to also jump on the bandwagon and broadcast their obvious biased conclusions before the facts have been established, is very ill-mannered. How must this athlete feel?"

I will tell you how she feels. She feels that she is being supported by her fellow citizens back home. Thanks to the ANC for not dilly-dallying and not mincing words in this matter. I personally will be at the airport together with thousands of other compatriots that will be there to show her support and give a warm welcome back home (from the cold and cruel world that is persecuting her as we speak).

It seems, according to you, jaycee, we and the ANC, were supposed to keep quiet and sit in the corner and be these little sheep from the dark content of Africa that should listen to the ozzies and the Europeans of this world; and shut up. It seems you are saying we should allow these morons to insult and abuse this innocent 18 year old young woman all they like, and we sould say nothing because they want to do some stupid little tests on her. What kind of that warped thinking is that, jaycee? My goodness!

We are South Africans. We defend our own. Super-power status or not, we know how to make our presence felt. Well done African National Congress for rising to the occasion. We expected no less from you. Forward Ever; Backward Never! Defend our little World champion.

Pierre Hough,don't end up with an egg on your face pal.Wai till the tests are done.I watched the named person run and also watched his interview.It takes a man to recognise one.Maybe it's me who shall end up with an egg on my face.This 'girl' has no melons,just flat up there,no femininity about 'her'.Is she a 'girl' caught in a 'man's ' body?.




This country has shown us that everything is possible.Ref:Zuma.Malema

If the IAAF orders a gender test based on a reasonable suspicion, given that their rules state that only female competitors are eligible to compete in women's races, then so be it.

In the meantime, let's unite behind Caster and her family because we are extremely proud of a truly remarkable achievement.

(After breaking the women's high-jump world record at the European Championships in Vienna in 1938, the athlete known as Dora Ratjen was spotted with a "five o'clock shadow" on the train back to Germany – an examination revealed her to be a man. Hermann Ratjen claimed Nazi officials forced him to compete.

Stella Walsh won the women's 100m at the 1932 Olympics in Los Angeles and took silver in 1936. She was shot dead during a robbery at a shop in 1980 and was found to have male genitalia.)

You go girl!

Sinudeity @gmail.com

sports in SA is governed by a political body so how can they not be involved. Politics don't end with service delivery. we need all the support we can get for Semenya and all you are thinking about is takin a cheap shots at the ANC? it is actually a good thing for the ANC to make a statement to the world letting the IAAF know that this accusation is unacceptable.

south africans are proud of Semenya, this matter is bigger than your narrow minded views!!

2boy The One: Taking cheap shots? Whatever.

How about, the ANC said to the IAAF, in the name of ALL
South Africans, and not just the ANC, that their accusation is unacceptable?

If the president supports a national sporting team, does he go, as the ANC, or as the president of South Africa?

Im not ANC, does that mean, Im not proud of her achievement?

Sinudeity @gmail.com


"How about, the ANC said to the IAAF, in the name of ALL
South Africans"

shame man, are u feeling excluded? the ANC spoke on behalf of the masses and itself. be thankful that they supported some1 that is making us proud.

"If the president supports a national sporting team, does he go, as the ANC, or as the president of South Africa?"

he goes as the president of the country, HOWEVER, the person making these statements to the media was not Zuma but was Brian Sokutu speaking on behalf of the ANC!!!! so the answer to your question lies in article...

"Im not ANC, does that mean, Im not proud of her achievement?"

no, if you keep condemning the ANC for every little thing they do even when it is positive for the country then it means you can't see past your political alignment... this issue is about her not the ANC!!

"these statements to the media was not Zuma but was Brian Sokutu speaking on behalf of the ANC" - On behalf of the ANC?


Anyways.

You missed my point.

Keep.Politics.Out.Of.Sports.

"this issue is about her not the ANC!!" - EXACTLY 2boy.