Cele promises tougher fight against crime

Where did Zuma find this idiot?

@Khalsa
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We R tired of BLAFAZ, we need Action!

Tyk it/leave it!

@ Khalsa Singh

I dont think that people like you guys are building the country,everytime when I am looking at the comment u make, you are onle critisizing without giving any solution. I dont think it the good way of talking to just call someone an idiot, but i might be wrong maybe your parents have taught you to talk like that. I think Bheki Cele is proposing a good thing when he says the polise must enjoy more benefits of the law rather than the criminals, who are killing our police. It is still early to make any judgment, give Zuma's administration time, by the way he beats you on the free and fair election that is why he is our President and that cannot be compromised in any way, you must enjoy it. Have any one heard Helen Zille comment on HIV/AIDS and Swine Flu?

Promises, promises and even more promises! Now just deliver please we are really tired of the tyranny of violence and fear! The whole criminal justice system is at the root of the problem, even if SAPS cleans up its act (promise!) I promise it just won't work unless we have a government of integrity who command our sincere respect, the roots of compromise, poor performance, nepotism etc run really deep. Until we call individuals to account and then make them face the consequences when they don't perform or deliver the services we need, we will have a namby-pamby government without self-discipline or excellence. Stop lying to us you end up lying so often you are shape yor own version of the truth!

With way SAPS discourages and chases away skilled people they will be fighting a losing battle. The criminal justice system is structured in a way that it pays to do crime. With a conviction rate of only 10.3% it means that only 1 out of 10 cases that get to court are successful. That is pathetic.

Blah blah, words again.

It really irritates me that the ONLY reason crime is now coming under the magnifying glass is the world cup. For SH!# sakes, people are being killed and raped every day and yet its the world cup that gets put on the pedestal as the reason to do something. Thanks to Thabo the useless Mbeki the country is in a really bad place. Talk is cheap and all I see so far is a lot of talk from Zuma and his cronies. They may be saying the right things but actually doing something is a different story altogether. Why is it that we have bread a country of corruption, crime and entitlement rather than honest work to get what you want in life.

I find myself liking Mr Cele more and more. I know that he's following the ANC tecnique of 'talking loudly' about things, so as to appear more serious. He does however seem to share my hatred of contact crime, and violence against women and children. Go Mr Cele! Make them run for cover!

All we get from this odd man who dresses like a LA pimp is a bagful of big, brash promises. All talk; no action.

Hear , Hear Mr. Cele. But will the brutality against innocent persons of the public also stop, or will the level of brutality rise, just like Your KZN VIP protection task forçe's brutality that have caause numerous accidents and in some cases an unnecessary death or two, and will you also clean up the level of coruption in your SAPS?. Will you train your staff to speak decently and properly to members of the public when visiting police stations? Will you get your police to remove their (your) racist glasses and will you now eventually do something about the brutal killings in our homes and the farm murders? Show us, or are you also just talk and no action.

MAYBE Cele will change the SAPS into a well-oiled, efficient crime-fighting machine. Maybe. But if the trail of gangsters lead him to one of his friends as the kingpin, will he arrest them or cover up for them? "Lose the Docket" as it were? Slamming poor people into gaol (or simply killing them to avoid all the hard work) is no way to fight crime. Without a genuine "no fear or favour" approach, the fight cannot be won. In Cele, do we really have an independent police chief who can investigate anyone no matter what their connections?

And in the same Mail and Guardian I read about Western Cape Commissioner Mzwandile Petros lying in an affidavit in the Pagad bombing case. Not only that but the police seem to have been using illegal methods in their investigations. This does not give me confidence in an extended "right to shoot" for the police. Mr Cele's pronouncements also do not make sense. "We cannot equate the human rights of the victims and perpetrator. Those that want to argue it, let them argue it, but I cannot equate the human rights of a raped woman and a rapist." This is straw man nonsense! Who has ever equated the rights of victim and perpetrator? What would be the point? What of crimes which are essentially victimless? Shoot to kill there too? I wish Mr Cele would stop shooting his mouth off and start visiting police stations in the middle of the night! Not to drink coffee. Not with a massive "blue light" entourage either. Go and check on the police. Leave the criminals out of it. Check on the police. If the police do their job the problem will be solved. The police could also do with you PRIORITISING crimes. Murder and rape at the top... public urination at the bottom... "Zero tolerance" tough talk is quite empty when the public read about a million unsolved crimes. To claim you have zero tolerance when you prove to be so ineffective is cheap hollow talk. At the moment it's "everything" and "nothing".

ha, ha this is a joke right?

What a joke!!!! Tell me Mr Cele, is it normal to be burgled 3 times in the past 6 months? Is it normal having to wait for 6 hours for the SAPS to arrive at the scene of the crime and 24 hours later I have not even received a case number??????

What is worse, try calling the SAPS in Hammanskraal - nobody is answering the phone and that Mr Cele is were you need to start you work before you can talk about 'zero tolerance'.

I am cer

The man Cele is the right man for the job, give him time he has to transform the police force first before we can start seeing the results. The public needs to work with the police force as well,lets have constructive critisim rather than call this man an idiot as seen on one of the emails it's not right give the man the time and work together against all types of crime and sooner than later we will all like this man, i can see where he's going.Lets give him all the support.

The Convention on Human Rights does not in fact speak to the details of police powers that he is using as a soapbox. Many countries with much better human rights records than South Africa give greater powers to police than South Africa's current law.

The real problem for me is that implicit in Cele's statement is that he feels that he and police officers are in a position to decide who is a victim and who is a criminal, and therefore to decide what rights each person should enjoy. (Hein Huyser's point applies here!)

Cele's sets up human rights as the proverbial straw man and in so doing demonstrates his lack of knowledge of the concept, and his unreadiness for the position that he holds. When will we get to hear some serious policing strategy, rather than these poorly informed attacks on priniples?

@Lovemore!
("The man Cele is the right man for the job, give him time he has to transform the police force first before we can start seeing the results. The public needs to work with the police force as well,lets have constructive critisim rather than call this man an idiot as seen on one of the emails it's not right give the man the time")


tokn abat time?Thats wot we don't have!Nowadayz time costs innocent PEOPLES' LIVES of S.A.
The community does try 2 report criminalz in the community,& wot do they get back?The police R criminalz budiez, so thez no use 4 that.
THINK AGAIN, THINK IDIOT-CELE!
tyk it /leave it!