SA crime refugee never laid charges with cops

this huntley dude must not be entertained! he is an embarrassment to SA! i have been attacked/robbed a few times and have had my house broken into... maybe it's because i'm Sotho... i mean really!!

what crimes was he reffering to and what proof did he have?

Khalsa Singh

i beg to differ because Canda's decision is racially motivated! they say blaks are killing or attacking whites just because they are white? that is a racially motivated decision...

if you people think that crime in SA is racially motivated then i guess you better follow Huntley...

He didn't lay charges because he probably felt it would get him nowhere! Don't judge the man too harshly. SA must look at itself and I guess there would also be many blacks who would like to find refuge in other countries, maybe not out of political consideration but because of the reprehensible living conditions they have to endure.

Imagine a world where repressive governments would intervene in refugee cases around the world. The representatives from Zimbabwe, Somalia and the DRC deny that things are BAD at home. We deny everything. We can't find a police docket. Publish crime statistics regularly? Noooo! That would make us LOOK bad! Protect our citizens? Even our police seemingly can't protect themselves round here! Instead of acknowledging that we have problems it's best to do a Julius Malema and play the race card.... AGAIN!

One has to hand it to him for chutzpah. And he got his 15 minutes to boot! Good luck to you, mate.

Marius de Kock

if you paid attention and watched parliament then perhaps you'd realise that the ANC has acknowledged crime being a problem. There has been no denial of crime being high!! is you also stopped paying so much attention to Julius maybe you would perhaps make more informed comments.

1) The government has every right to "play the race card" in this instance because the decision by the Canadian gvmnt portrays black South Africans taking revenge for apartheid and killing every white person in sight. many white people are subjected to crime but that's all it is, CRIME!! it is not racially motivated...

2) Crime stats are a political tool!! what is the point of releasing crime stats that show an increase in crime and then the oppoosition is happy about it and accuse the government of not doing enough and in that same breath when crime stats show a decrease then the very same opposition party disputes the accuracy of those stats claiming that they are flawed?

if we had a more genuine opposition then maybe we could all sit down and disect! Frene Ginwala (Justice Factor)was on e-news last week and she even stated that the opposition does not debate policies but debates the intentions of the ANC therefore accusing it of ulterior motives...

now how do we all engage in the fight against crime when such things happen?

In the townships blacks are frequently racists towards whites
They are even tribalistic.If you understand the culture and
language then it is fact.Part of the motivation why criminals
target whites is because of race.Even children as young as 2 years of age are taught by their parents(peers) how to be racialistic AND the need to steal or con each other.

I am very angry with this guy. As for Canada will they offer me the refugee status for being mugged, house broken into, car stolen and staying in doors after dark to avoid being mugged again? I live in a squatter camp with no electricity,no running water or proper sanitation.

The Canadian govt granted this spoilt little brat asylum because he was a victim of black-on-white violence. That is RACIST. This states, without a shadow of doubt, that (all) whites in SA are victims of violence by (all) blacks.
Which part do the unusual suspects not get about this being a race issue ?
And, he was allegedly attacked 7 times, without reporting one incident to the police ? C'mon..... what a joke.
And to top it all, he had proof of this ? (without reporting one ?) Canada is most welcome to keep this embarassing excuse for an ex-pat.
[I just wonder if they'll be so accomodating when blacks, SA'n Indians, 'coloureds' and SA'n Chinese apply for refugee status, citing the same reasons he did]
Canada's refugee agency should be hawled in front of the UN for perpetuating false propaganda.

Now this is an interesting story! I’m really sorry I missed it when it broke. It is about time that our government open their eyes and realise how the rest of the world sees us. We are not the rainbow nation anymore – all that goodwill and hope have all but disappeared. All my friends in Europe think it is pretty sad that South Africa will just end up like all other African countries – corrupt and ruined.

Canada is holding up a mirror, and we are disgusted by what we are seeing.

Unfortunately racism is rive in this country and I can quote several instances where black South Africans were clearly taking revenge. But Canada’s decision (probably the most pc country in the world) is not racist.

Good for you bud finally the world can see the chaos this country has declined into.Sad but very very true.

I have never read such Bullshit. I was Pistol whipped in 1995 by criminals who wanted my car. Which they did not get. I laid a charge at Orange Grove Police Station, When I phoned to say that the same Motor Vehicle was again in the vicinity of my attack. I was told by the Sargent to fuck off. I then got hold of Major Bruce and he was not at all helpful until i said I would take the matter in my own hands and shoot the perpetrators of the Pistol whipping that I endured, 79 stitches in my scalp. then he said he would do what he could absolute BULL SHIT he did nothing. The next Criminal who threatens me will be shot without due warning as I wont go through the Ordeal again. They are so easy to spot having been in Retail for most of my life I can sense them in a few seconds. So all you people who want to call the RACE card, wake up its all of us whether black or white. I am 64 years old.

This guy is a shame to his country,to his family&everybody who knows him.Congratulations for a stunt he pulled& Canadian Government got entertained,shame on them as well for not establishing the facts prior to granting him assylum.Everybody knows that crime is our worst enemy in this young democracy&this fellow got the nerve to capitalise on that to paint a wrong picture about our beautiful country.I saw his photo on the front page on a newspaper&he is in a relaxed mood,smoking his joint.Well done to him for securing a rent free accomodation in Canada at the country's expense.He must remember one thing;there is no place like home,soon he'll realize that.

@Moxster

"The Canadian govt granted this spoilt little brat asylum because he was a victim of black-on-white violence"

Well he is white, so therefore must be spoilt. You are racist.

"This states, without a shadow of doubt, that (all) whites in SA are victims of violence by (all) blacks."

No it simply states the HE was a victim of violence. You need to take a logic course.

"I just wonder if they'll be so accomodating when blacks, SA'n Indians, 'coloureds' and SA'n Chinese apply for refugee status, citing the same reasons he did"

Most asylum seekers and refugees across the world are african and asian. And unlike South Africans, who have treated the Zimbabwean refugees disgracefully, Canada's government may even look after his basic human rights properly, shock horror!

This isn't about race, its about the world starting to view us as a country sufficiently dangerous to create people of refugee status. Stop ignoring the real problem - governance. Its time the ANC started earning the tax money we pay them. Who cares about this guy, he saw a gap and took it. Big deal. I dont care about him, but I do care about the crime, and I care that as soon as the ANC gets criticized directly or indirectly they shout race, instead of behaving like adults, taking the criticism on the chin, and working harder to inmprove our country. They need to put up or shut up.

look you all are crying like babies here in sa. that guy is happy were he is now. maybe we all should just find our happy place. only idiots scream racism, and i laugh everytime i hear it.

Huntley has every right to seek temprorary residence in Canada and does nto have to justify it to anybody except himself and his maker...these consitutional rights which most first world countries operate under are a testament to our evolvement as a society...Moxster, do you realise that SA actually copied many of the central tenets of the Canadian Consitution...it is interesting that when people moaned about Zuma and his constitutional rights must be respectd...surely the same applies to him..the facts as to whether he laid charges and his previous failed marriage become completely irrelevant..it's strange that the govt rant and rave about this matter and then are dead quite about the application of AA...I wish the ANC would focus on service delivery, crime, education etc etc than a small time guy who succeded in his attempt to leave his problems behind him..

I don't understand how people can say they love this country yet they hate the people that live in it. The people of this country are what makes South Africa, white, black, coloured, Indiana, pink, blue, orange and purple...it's why we are fantastic.

Not only white people experience crime many black people experience crime all the time and no one seems to care when this happens, it's only when white people are affected that people seem to care. Lets not be selective about crime, we all experience it, it is what it is crime and yes it's a problem no one is denying that.

Wise up people we are all in the same boat here, let's stop whining about the problem and help find solutions to it and make this place we all claim to love a better place. Gandhi once said..."Be the change you want to see in the world" I think we can all learn from that.

This man is hypocrite and an attention seeker with wrong things though. The Candadian Govt. must explain how did they pull that one up (Granding him refugee status, not unless they will tell SA authorities that they dont know how and when the refugee status is granted. I dont want to see it as a race issue yet as there many white south africans who I am sure will neva do as he did and hold different views about the subject

This guy is an embarrassment. I don't think he is from Mowbray, more like Valkenburg!

The hypocrisy ... A large portions comments from blacks, as well as some government personal have responded that the whites should run, and when one does, they mock him, call him a liar, and a coward... This Neanderthal thinking paints a pretty grim picture... If laying a case at the police station is criteria for dismissal of refugee status, most of the Zimbabweans, and the other African emigrants that have been granted refugee status in European countries should all have their refugee status removed.

This is for all who believe the race card against each other is correct. " This is our country and whoever wants to tarnish it's image will never rest well whether you run to Britain you will be a slave for Brits or Canadians alike or Austrians. Because you will assist them in developing their countries further and your country will continue to remain in the ashes. But whoever wants to "Go" you are free to do so. There is a lot of whites and Blacks, Indians and Colourts who will remain here forever and ever.
Crime will always be a problem and anyone who is not involved in dealing with it then is a coward he or she can leave. Whoever has the problem with the ruling party(ANC) can also leave who cares the country will always find better methods to rectify or replace you.
If You cannot live and die here then find a visa take another "great trek". But all who would like to remain here, I'm saying you need more than luck because I have been mugged so many times I cannot count, I m just lucky to be alive today. I cannot go to Botswana or China and ask for any status of refugee.

I' m fine here!

Ok so let me get this right: in less than 48 hours the Government has been able to prove that one man has not opened a case amongst the hundreds of thousand of police dockets that are lying around police stations throughout this country? Could they have been lost? - never, that has never happened in SA before has it? Sounds like spin control - very poor spin control.

As for the racist claims. Please get another horse to flog cause this one's dead - and the rest of the world is tired of hearing these petty BS claims by a bunch of people whose age exceeds their IQ's. You're all idiots.

Predictably you find and overall; white vs black scenario.
We miss the point; we should feel agrieved and embarassed that someone would use the state of affairs in this country to gain access to another. Agrieved because it is our country (belonging to both blacks and whites) whose name is muddied. Sad because the facts about crime is true.

All in all, kudos to him for gaining access to a country without proof of being an asset - he did what he had to, and good riddance to bad rubbish for being disloyal to his country.

I am very dissapointed with some of the comments here trying to justify treason committed by this bloke. fact is 1. yes RSA has a problem with high crime 2. This crime affects everybody both Black and White 3. I'm even prepared to put my kneck on a chopping block and say statistically more Black people are victims of crime more that any other race in this country. 5. like in many other countries you will have situations where somebody will get killed for their colour of their skin/Race - e.g.Germany, UK, US, Iraq and off course SA - by the way many blacks have been killed in this country because of their skin color. and I'm not refering to Apartheid days, iam talking about the mordern democratic SA.
Given all these facts, Canada's decision is at the very least PREPOSTEROUS if not indeed BIGOTRY! or maybe they (Canadians) can prove me wrong by giving all law abiding SA citizens refugee status in their country, and maybe they can export their criminals down here.

My friend was called the K- word, man handled, beaten up, went to a police station to lay a charge he was also subjected to some racially abusive behaviour, till today nothing has been done this happened a few months back ..can he also apply for a refugee status in Canada ?

@ Cyber Dog: that is some comment right there. People from Zimbabwe and other African countr flee because civil wars and other pressing issues. I dont think your comment (AFRICAN PEOPLE IN EUROPEAN COUNRTIES should have their refugee statuses taken away because of this cause and comments that people and politicians have made beause circumstances are not the same. This is a totally different case, this is someone who wanted to rubbish South Africa to European countries and who knows he might claim the same after he has had it with Canada. Lets put race issues on the side because we all know its crazy but deal with the case @ hand in a broader perspective and with an intention of unifying people of South Africa. We come so far people of South Africa we can not be defeated by this

voltr baldr

well said...

Good riddance.
Too many pessimist like him in SA anyway. Wonder how long it is before he starts moaning about life in Canada!!

LOL ... I can only laugh at all this rubbish!

'Racism', 'treason', 'disloyalty', 'tarnish our image', hypocrite ... etc etc etc etc ....

Wake up and smell the coffee! A lot of people ( and a government or two ) think this place is a basket case with little prospect of getting any better.

Ranting about such people's sanity and calling them every derogatory name in the book isn't going to change a thing ... least of all their view about SA.

Good luck mate, hope it turns out just great!!

Oh well, I can understand Huntley's point of view. The FIRST time I was shot at by a black man burglarizing my home was 52 years ago. Since then I have also been attacked, sworn at, stolen from by black people. And surprise, surprise. Every time I've called the police, they either failed to open a case or lost the docket.

The South African Institute of Race Relations; the Human Rights Commission and all chapter 9 institutions were caught with their pants around their ankles. In a country such as Canada, it’s not regarded as cool to bad-mouth a racial minority. Not under any circumstances. In South Africa it has become common course for cabinet Ministers, senior civil servants, judges and publishers to bad-mouth “whites”.

Consider, for a moment, the language (quoted in the media the past few weeks) of Manyi and Mdladlana on the issue of Employment Equity. Consider also the pronouncements of Malema and Athletics South Africa boss Leonard Chuene on the issue of gender determination. Consider the language of Hlope. The list goes on and on.

I get worried when the chief executive of the Human Rights Commission, Tseliso Thipanyane says; “Huntley's case was a ridiculous attempt at obtaining citizenship in Canada.” What informs this pronouncement? I am told Huntley relied on newspaper articles to strengthen his case. Has Thipanyane had a look lately? Newspapers are awash with reports of bile and venom directed at “whites”.

It seems to me like the watchdogs were caught sleeping.

Sipiwo Pahlane on September 1, 2009, 2:48 pm posted the following comment in response to the SA govt slams Canada refugee ruling

This is what he said: ”There is no need for the South African government to respond to that type of crap …... perhaps if what he is saying is true whoever attacked him should look for other like minded and double the effort.”

Is Sipiwo Pahlane advocating for an increase in violent attacks on whites or am I reading too much into his statement.

@Simphiwe Dlamini If there was just one, one single system that has any intention of unification, or is even color blind, I would right now be on the bench with the others that are criticizing this fellow... Give me just one reason why this person should rather have stayed in South Africa, instead of seeking asylum elsewhere.... And please do not quote some fool's lame speech. Give me something valid. Whites do not want to stay, they are made to feel as unwelcome as possible, and every attempt is made to put them on a guilt trip, irregardless of who they are. [Reconciliation means settlement, resolution, compromise, reunion, bringing together.] That word should be removed from all official government documents. "pressing issues" what could be more pressing than the ordeal he had experienced which is not even addressed. No human deserves that, regardless of background. There are serious and pressing issues that need to be addressed for the last ten years, and are continuously been swept under the carpet. South Africa is in the middle of a devastating crises, and if it takes granting one person refugee status to get the clowns in the government to suddenly take notice, he has achieved far more than most others in South Africa has. Time for hot air is finished, it is now time for action.

cyber dog, it's funny white people in South Africa despite being the minority still hold 90% of the wealth in this country. They live in houses in the suburbs with; high walls, fancy cars, guard dog and security systems second to none and yet you complain about how difficult life in South Africa is for you. Gee I'm sorry let me pull out my box of tissues and weep for all the white people because their lives are just so damn tough. Compared to any other African country on this continent no one has it better than white people in this country.

While the rest of the population lives in sqwaler, what exactly are you doing to help the people who are less fortunate in this country...oh that's right nothing and yet you whine about how bad things are. Some of my best friends are white and love living in this country and are actively trying to help those in worse off positions than they are so they can make this a better place to live. These are the people that this place needs and like in any European country we only want people who are prepared to contribute to make this place better than it's greatest potential.

It all boils down to intelligence in my opinion, all those who whine and complain all day about how bad things are are just too stupid to come up with helpful solutions that will make this country better and all those who are actively doing something to make a difference regardless of how small are intelligent because they realize that if they stop whining and contribute then maybe we all can make a difference. I ask you cyber dog what are you stupid or intelligent (are you free or are you DOM!!!!) Don't just leave it all to the government to sort all of this out, they are not the only people living in this country, how about getting off your whining horse and do something yourself!

Why should he report it? If and when the semi-literate 'officer' manages to write out a statement he will most probably put it in file 13. No one is going to follow up on a white's racial complaint.

SA has high crime levels but this has more to do with poverty tha race. Since when am I, a white South African all my life, persecuted by black people?
Black people are the worst hit by crime. And if you really want to examine it and find a racial element in crime, it cuts both ways - I mean, what about the Waterkloof 4, Skielik massacre etc
Huntley is a disgrace to any white South African with his lies - if he didn't go to the police, did he at least go to a hospital or trauma unit?
Canada owes SA an apology - there is no basis to insult all black South Africans the way it did.