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Athletics South Africa (ASA) must "fire" its president Leonard Chuene for "lying" about gender tests conducted on 800m world champion Caster Semenya, the ministry of sport said on Saturday. "We now request the membership of ASA to not only take disciplinary action against Mr Chuene, but to fire him from his position as the president of ASA." "If they fail to do so, they will be running the risk of being led by a liar," Deputy Minister of Sport Gert Oosthuizen said in a statement. He added that his ministry had noted with shock Chuene's admission about lying about his knowledge of the gender tests conducted on Semenya ahead of the IAAF World Championships in Berlin last month. Semenya won a gold medal and was crowned 800m world champion. The department, Oosthuizen said, had on two occasions requested a report from Chuene on what happened before, during and after Berlin. Chuene admitted on Saturday that he had lied to the South African public about not having any knowledge of gender tests conducted on Semenya in Pretoria on August 7. Chuene said ASA's deception on the matter was intended to protect Semenya. "After observing his acknowledgement, we are not surprised by his lack of response to our request. Mr Chuene has not only lied to us as the ministry, but to the whole country, and this is not acceptable." Last week ASA adopted resolutions, some of which pertained to the World Championships in Berlin, based on a lie, said Oosthuizen. "We are convinced that the perpetual denial of the knowledge of these tests have fuelled the continuous violation of Ms Semenya's rights and dignity, by foreign and some local media." Oosthuizen said he disagreed with Chuene's insistence that he lied in Semenya's interest, "in fact, we are of the view that his lies were to Ms Semenya's detriment", said Oosthuizen. Chuene admitted on Saturday that he refused to accept advice from ASA team doctor Harold Adams to withdraw Semenya from the Berlin race. "I now realise that it was an error of judgement and I would like to apologise unconditionally. As president of ASA I will not, however, apologise for allowing caster Semenya to run or for protecting her privacy. "We fully agree that we could have handled this matter differently but something like this has never happened in this country before and we at ASA believe we acted in the best interests of the athlete," he said on Saturday. But while Chuene was advised by Adams to withdraw Semenya, he said he refused to do so without any concrete evidence. He said that Adams' verbal recommendation was not sufficient for him to make a decision on such a sensitive matter. Chuene also said that Adams, who travelled with Semenya to Berlin, should have advised the athlete to withdraw herself from the championships. The IAAF is still awaiting the results of gender tests conducted in Berlin but Chuene said he would not accept those results because the world governing body did not follow the correct protocol. 'We do nothing ...' The Mail & Guardian reported on Friday about an exchange of emails between Adams and Chuene that made it clear that Chuene knew Semenya was gender-tested. The email was sent by Adams to ASA general manager Molatelo Malehopo and copied to Chuene on August 5. The World Championships began on August 15. It reads: “After thinking about the current confidential matter I would suggest that we make the following decisions. 1. We get a gynae opinion and take it to Berlin. 2. We do nothing and I will handle these issues if they come up in Berlin. Please think and get back to me ASAP.” An emailed response from Malehopo to Adams, sent on the same day, reads: “I will suggest that you go ahead with the necessary tests that the IAAF might need.” - Sapa TOPICS IN THIS ARTICLE
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Havelock Vetinari on September 20, 2009, 7:42 am
The ministry of sport finally catches up. I see Sascoc are also launching an investigation! Chuene is finished. It's only a matter of time.
Marius de Kock on September 20, 2009, 8:06 am
The problem is the dep minister of sport is a white man, so surely by the retard definition of Africa, he is being a racist ?
Pasta Bag on September 20, 2009, 8:14 am
Chuene has lied thrice
The first time about the testing. The second by playing the race card to save his unworthy black skin. The third lie is that he lied to protect young Semenya. He has wrecked her life. He has created an international embarrassment for the country and brought international derision onto us for the consequential statements by the ministers of sport and international relations. He has put race relations at risk and undermined due process (by the IAAF) thus threatening our young democracy. Like Carl Niehaus, he is unfit to have any public office. His racism is another reason for South Africa to shun him.
V 3 on September 20, 2009, 9:14 am
Does this mean Stofile is going to call off World war III??? ....And the world breathes a sigh of relief....
Hopefully some high ranking padda's have now learnt not to shoot from the hip. Winnie, Junior Julius, AND lets not forget; alot of commentators on this website. Gentlemen, that smell? its egg on your face....
Thabiso Ice-Man. on September 20, 2009, 9:35 am
Strange that is not the MINISTER calling for Chuene's head, is he still trying to extract his foot from his mouth?
Tom Vorster on September 20, 2009, 9:46 am
"Sports ministry calls for Chuene's head"
Why on earth would they want his head? There is nothing inside it.
Dennis Hoines on September 20, 2009, 10:17 am
The day, using the race card lost all meaning.
A case of 'crying wolf' too much.
Sinudeity @gmail.com on September 20, 2009, 11:39 am
Now we are crying to the UN about Caster's rights being violated? Her rights and those of all the participating athletes in that race were violated. In fact the whole of SAs sporting bodies rights were violated in a massive way. Our credibility is now shot to sh..t! There is more to this than mere conscious cheating - and yes this is cheating especially when the facts are known and entry still takes place. What greed, ignorance and arrogance to try and pull the wool over the world's eyes. Was extra testosterone given as well to enhance a performance that was not good enough to even qualify for the games?
But shame on all those who yell "Racisit" when criticised - it really shows up the infantile manner in which these idiot politicians deal with matters. Quite sickening. As for Winnie and the 'medelsome mouth malema' - why are we still giving them air time?
sue topham on September 20, 2009, 12:47 pm
The only little light shining from the government. But watch Gert getting the boot from Stofile when he returns.(Apparently he is 'out of the country' - that's why the deputy had to(could?) fire the shot.)
Given that Butana Komphela, chairperson of the National Assembly's sport committee, last night blasted Oosthuizen in turn: "We have instructed Chuene not to report to the deputy minister, because of the media leaks that have come from that office." Ah well, committee calling the shots, not the ministry...
Gys van Niekerk on September 20, 2009, 12:53 pm
A few comments...govt who backed all and sundry from Cheune and his cronies in ASA...they should look inwards for a change and just accept that they have made blunders...that is the first part of coming clean....what this whole affair reveals is that SA's leadership still fall into the old reactionary and revolutionary mentality of going against order and rules..this is how they eventually persuaded SA to give in to its apartheid policies..but for the last 15 years this mentality of eye for an eye and covert cover ups and ducking and diving pervades our land...which is no different to the animals of apartheid....the ANC must also realise that the world is bigger than them...in fact they are right now the laughing stock for all to see..just what we need when we want to host the SWC 2010!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Craig Smith on September 20, 2009, 1:03 pm
Stofile is still preparing for world war 3. Chuene must resign or be fired. He can not be trusted
sechaba Motloung on September 20, 2009, 1:33 pm
There is a wonderful Afrikaans saying - "Slim vang sy baas!" Never more appropriate. Chuene must be really stupid if he thought that his lies would not catch up with him. I hope we are going to see Winnie and her half-wit side-kick Julius issue an apology for their emotional non-sensical outbursts too, but I guess that would be expecting too much! While we are speaking about apologies, what about one from Mantashe, who actually backed them up!
Gordon Smith on September 20, 2009, 2:03 pm
Lies...
Cheats ...... Racist slurs ....... Threats of war ........ Looks like it is time to ban South Africa from world competition again - you will never learn will you ..........
Jay Vincento on September 20, 2009, 2:48 pm
But I thought it was because everybody involved was racist, thats what every black politician from Malema upwards was saying! Now suddenly we see who the real liers are, and who really eploited Semenya and treated her badly. Not white Europeans, but our very own black Africans.
Where is Malema now? Maybe next time we`ll wait for the full picture before we start behaving like a bunch of idiots in front of the rest of the world,
JLG on September 20, 2009, 2:52 pm
Agreed, the focus is on him lying about the tests, but nothing about him lying about the 'white south african racists'.
The truth PWNED a 'black south african racist'.
Sinudeity @gmail.com on September 20, 2009, 3:01 pm
The South African Sports Minister should go as well, for making SA look idiots for calling for "War" over a gender test that now seems to have been properly required.
The doctor should also be fired for carrying out a test on semenya and decieving her what it was for (thereby committing gross professional misconduct by obtaing consent by deceit.) And Malema should go for looking an idiot, making SA look an idiot, and plastering Semenya's fate all over the world's press, and maing her now the World's most famous intersex. And everybody else who ballsed up when anyone gets around to actually investigating.
Alisdair Budd on September 20, 2009, 4:32 pm
Our sportminister wanted to go to war on the world ( maybe only the West) before checking if he was supplied with all the facts. He must be highly upset to be lied to and the remarks made to defend ASA president. Hopefully the minister will see to it that persons in this high office MUST supply him with TRUE facts all the time and NOT LIES. He made an ass of his ministerial offfice. The world must be laughing their heads off.
Wessel Green on September 20, 2009, 4:55 pm
What I find most puzzling in this quite frankly ludicrous situation is that this chap thought he'd get away with lying to the country, Semenya, the world.. It's breathtakingly naive and downright stupid. Heads should roll, but that's just wishful thinking as he seems determined, in the face of black and white evidence, to hang on to his no doubt cushty position.
Another lot of shady opportunists whose heads would also roll were it up to me are Winnie Mandela - what's the point of her, heh, shouldn't she be in jail? She's embarassing. Along with her should be the odious ANC youth league person, who comes across as a bigoted, mouthy, racist,good-for nothing 'see you next thursday' who's frankly a dangerous influence on a already very volatile society. Reminds me a bit pf the late Peter Mokaba, with worse suits. In the middle of all this is a confused, humiliated, sweet young woman. I hope she sues the lot of them.
Busi Buchan on September 20, 2009, 8:04 pm
With my abject apologies to Mr Churchill for bastardising his comment.
Never in the field of human stupidity was so much damage caused by so few to so many.
Steve Ell on September 20, 2009, 8:04 pm
And another thing, what's the cut off age for the ANCYL as their man's a bit long in the tooth to be still considered a youth.
Busi Buchan on September 20, 2009, 8:05 pm
"We will not allow that Europeans describe our children. They are our children."
"It would not be like that if it were some young girl from Europe." "Caster Semenya is facing intense scrutiny because she is African." "If it was a white child she would be sitting somewhere with a psychologist, but this is an African child." "Why is it that we don't celebrate one of our own? Is it because she is African?" "Chuene went on to blame racist South Africans for writing letters to the IAAF." "This is about racism." "These are ... the same people who bring black people down and the same people who refuse to believe that Africans can make it on the world stage." Thanks for that Leonard....
Marius de Kock on September 20, 2009, 8:51 pm
Leonard Chuene has done an incredible injustice to this young girl. Thanks to the media we now know what a snake he is. What say you Kitty Kat and Simanga Shongwe?
Swordfish ;) on September 20, 2009, 8:57 pm
Minister Stofile must go as well. For one thing that would set a precedent in President Zuma's government, sorely needed.
Jason Whitehead on September 21, 2009, 3:03 am
Pasta Bag, I just loved your comment,
"The problem is the dep minister of sport is a white man, so surely by the retard definition of Africa, he is being a racist ?" hee hee hee though I still feel for Caster Semenya the controversy has thrown a lot of eggs at the right faces. It has never been about &^%$ race as I argue in my blog here on MG, "And if Ms Semenya were not black?"
Rod MacKenzie on September 21, 2009, 3:41 am
Passing strange that Malema, Winnie M, and our own Kobus Botha, Siphiwo etc. are so silent on this matter after their vitriol and calls of "racism" of the last few weeks...
Peter Win on September 21, 2009, 6:10 am
To you SA people who keep dwelling on the past, blaming whites for everything you have (medicine and technology) - read the quotes Marius has (above), and think carefully. You keep complaining, but it is clear you are the problem in this country. Why dont you leave rather, along with Malema, Chuene etc. I am sure Cuba would love your leadership drivel.
Pasta Bag on September 21, 2009, 6:20 am
Where is the Minister who called for "WORLD WAR 3" on the caster's issue?, i guess he will not look at himself in the mirror for few weeks to come, Viva Chuene, viva H E Minister
Steve Mukunda on September 21, 2009, 8:00 am
Where are all those windbags who had so much to say on this forum a few weeks back. The windbags backing Chuene, Malema, Winnie ( the Pooh) etc.
Whats wrong, cat got your tongues !!! What about this poor Woman, who has been under such personal scrutiny? Is the Youth League and Winnie the Pooh still supporting her? Why are they so quiet?? She should sue them all !!!!!
Debbie Hartman on September 21, 2009, 9:03 am
Well said Marius... When you read those comments it puts into perspective just how ridiculous South Africa looks to the outside world. How can anyone with half a brain read those comments and not think that Cheune an co are idiots?? It beggars belief that there are those so blinded by their loyalty to the ANC that they refuse to accept the facts. Wake up people, join the real world and get some perspective.
A K on September 21, 2009, 10:36 am
If you people are not looking at the problem here with an objective frame of mind instead of your own foolish, selfish, subjective, prejudiced spewments, you (Marius, Pasta, etc) are just as guilty as Chuene in this debacle. While you lot are busy attacking the xyz establishment, we will still be supporting Semenya, a true sportswoman if there ever was one.
The Moxster on September 21, 2009, 1:07 pm
NB# For those mentally handicapped, the emphasis is on "true".
The Moxster on September 21, 2009, 1:08 pm
Now that we know South Africa tested Caster first and IAAF second,are we going to apologise to the IAAF,Australia,white people, etc., and withdraw our WW111 threats?
Moxster an IQ of at least 100 or more is needed on these comment pages.Go and display your fcuked up head @ Luthuli house where you shall be in good company.May I also suggested that your comments are wasted on this site,try the ANC Today.Who knows,you might get Chuene's job,you seem to have the traits.
Evans Mazi on September 21, 2009, 1:31 pm
"...we will still be supporting Semenya, a true sportswoman if there ever was one."
The Moxster on September 21, 2009, 1:07 pm Dude, we were always supporting her unlike Winnie, Malema and co who were just using her. There is a difference, don't tar me with that brush. Have you nothing to say on the comments that Marius collected?? Or are you just going to pretend that they aren't the most vile and ridiculous sentiments from a half baked government puppet??
A K on September 21, 2009, 1:36 pm
Deputy Minister of Sport Gert Oosthuizen is seniour to this silly Butana Komphela.Is it because he is white that this dunce Komphela can say what he wants.
Butana should be put in his place.I am starting to get confused as to how this Mickey Mouse government is run.How can a mere parliamentary member make such a strong statement against a government minister????.Does this mean the deputy minister has no really power in his position?Or is Butana being racist here? Someone help to explain this quagmire to me. Zuma's conspicuous by his silence,he must still be trying to retrieve his foot from his mouth like the rest of ANCartel.
Evans Mazi on September 21, 2009, 1:45 pm
Evans, Evans, Evans ...
Struck a chord, have I ? What is with that anti-freedom-of-speech drivel emenating from you ? An IQ of 100 or more, I hear you say ... This coming from someone who cannot get his/her grammatical tense correct ("May I also suggested that...") ? Enough said ! Anyway, moving along swiftly, the ANC and the sports ministry has come out in full support for this Chuene dude to be fired. His actions or non-actions (in this case), depending where you stand, are to be condemned. An investigation is to be implemented immediately to get to the bottom of it.
The Moxster on September 21, 2009, 2:08 pm
A K, waar val djy uit ?
The Moxster on September 21, 2009, 2:08 pm
Moxie: "His actions or non actions" - You mean his anti-white hate speech, and his LIES?!
BIG difference my friend. Funny how you try and leverage the truth, to your advantage. "The 'True' supporters'..." Malema/Winnie merely used Caster as an object, to promote their political agendas. It seems, the 'True' South Africans, all along, were those, against Chuene from the beginning, rallying against his hate speech. The people calling for 'non-racial' transformation. Unlike your definition of the word, which translates, to a 'black racist'.
Sinudeity @gmail.com on September 21, 2009, 5:45 pm
Sinu, ok, let me spell this out in black and white (excuse the pun):
By true supporters: -The supporters that were there to greet Semenya and her fellow athletes at the airport. The ones who made the effort to turn up -The supporters who followed, Semenya especially , during that tournament from their living rooms across the country -The supporters who still stood behind this beautiful women when all around her were crying foul -The supporters who sees Semenya as an athlete and not as an excuse to fuel their selfish obsession with irrelevant bulldust
The Moxster on September 22, 2009, 9:10 am
Sinu, by anti-white speech, I assume you mean his utterence of: "where are the whites" ?
Well, what is wrong with that and where were they ? 'They' were so eager to greet the 'Boks from their triumphant tri-nations tour, but when these athletes came home, "they" were nowhere to be seen, apparently apart from a number of white journo's. I can only summise that your people didn't see Semenya's great accomplishment as that important until it became 'political'. You people did not even bother. tsk !
The Moxster on September 22, 2009, 9:16 am
Moxie: I was quoting Chuene. All of a sudden you try attribute his words as "your own foolish, selfish, subjective, prejudiced spewments" to me? Chuene was put in a position of trust and he betrayed that trust. The real loser here has been Caster Semenya, but keep defending Chuene's slimey ways if you must. The reality is that Caster Semenya should not have gone to the World Champs. She should have stayed behind. This much is clear. Of course she went and won and you sit there clapping your hands. The sad reality is that because of this she will have no career. I believe that she could have been treated for the excess testosterone and have had a career. A long career littered with gold. Olympic gold. Now? Not so simple.... I wonder if the IAAF have decided to accept his resignation?
Marius de Kock on September 22, 2009, 2:48 pm
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I would suggest that after the political dead wood at the top of the ASA tree has been pruned, they need to appoint a qualified and experienced sports management professional. This disaster has the makings of a bright new beginning for athletics - it has shown what political appointees can do to a sport, and how little they do for it. It is now the ideal time for sport to distance itself from politics, whether the politicians like it or not.