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"I bought shoes for the ex-president, Thabo Mbeki," drug lord Glenn Agliotti told the South Gauteng High Court on Wednesday afternoon during former police chief Jackie Selebi's corruption trial. Agliotti, testifying for his second day, said that on one of his shopping trips at upmarket stores in Sandton City with Selebi, Selebi "indicated that he needed to buy shoes" for Mbeki. "He told the shop's assistants that he needed a size seven, because the president had small and broad feet." Agliotti said he put the shoes on his account, but doesn't know what happened to them after they left the store. Agliotti resumed his testimony after Judge Meyer Joffe ruled that the state may amend its charge sheet to include alleged crimes committed in 2006 by Selebi. Earlier, chief prosecutor Gerrie Nel admitted to a "typing error" on the charge sheet that limited alleged corrupt deeds by Selebi to the end of 2005, and not 2006. The state alleges Selebi abused his position to corruptly benefit Agliotti, who paid him about R1-million in cash and bought clothes for his family. After giving more detail about his shopping sprees with Selebi, Agliotti started telling the court about confidential reports Selebi showed him. The first report was allegedly brought to Agliotti during an urgent meeting called by Selebi, in 2005, at his Midrand offices. The document was opened to a page where Selebi had underlined two lines. "It was something to the effect that 'Jurgen Kögl reports that the Kebbles are paying Selebi'." Agliotti said that neither he nor Selebi knew Kögl. Selebi was "rather upset" and would demand a "letter of apology", as this letter had already been sent to Mbeki.  CONTINUES BELOW Agliotti said that he learnt from the Kebbles that Kögl had entered into a business venture with the late Brett Kebble, but the deal had gone sour and strained relations between the parties. "I refer to this document as an NIA report," said Agliotti. Nel then questioned Agliotti on a second report, referred to as a "UK report". In July 2006, "the accused phoned and asked to see me urgently", said Agliotti, upon which they met at the Midrand office. Here Selebi showed him a short document, which bore the coat of arms of the United Kingdom, and "either HMS or Her Majesty's Customs". In the document, Agliotti read notes on his movements, specifically a trip to London with fellow drug dealer Clinton Nassif, and "a shopping trip", also to London, with his daughter. The report mentioned that Agliotti had met with English nationals Billy Ambrose and a friend called "Cahill". "[Selebi] wanted to make me aware of the fact that authorities in the UK were monitoring my movements," Agliotti testified. Nel asked him whether he had ever been questioned by the police about the document, upon which he replied that he hadn't. Nel then proceeded to present the court, and Agliotti, with documents that had been sent by British authorities to the South African Police Service (SAPS), listing suspected illegal drug-trafficking activities on Agliotti's part. One document to director Mark Henkel of the police's crime intelligence unit addressed an operation called "Extine". It describes that Agliotti was suspected of trafficking cocaine from the United Kingdom via Venezuela and Angola to South Africa. Agliotti said he knew nothing about it. It also mentions his association with "Baldy John", an English national, also known as Christopher John Granger, who allegedly transported drugs for Agliotti. Nel also produced another document from the British High Commission in South Africa to the police, asking for information about Agliotti's activities. Agliotti said that although he was questioned briefly at Heathrow airport's customs by British officials, he was never approached or questioned by the SAPS on any of the documents and suspicions. Rautenbach 'paid for his problems' to disappear On Tuesday, the court heard that former Hyundai boss Billy Rautenbach allegedly paid $100 000 for his "problems" in South Africa to disappear. Rautenbach, who is set to testify in the trial, featured prominently in the evidence of Agliotti. Agliotti testified that he charged Rautenbach $100 000 to use his connection with Selebi to "sort out" Rautenbach's problems in South Africa. However, the only assistance Rautenbach received from the former top cop was confirmation that an international arrest warrant hadn't been issued by Interpol. Selebi, according to Agliotti, received $30 000 of Rautenbach's money in return for his assistance. Two weeks ago Rautenbach finally handed himself to South African authorities and agreed to pay a R40-million fine. The court also heard on Tuesday how Agliotti allegedly paid Selebi R1-million in bribes to secure Selebi's influence. "I paid the accused an estimated R1-million, made up of rands and US dollars." This was the response of Agliotti to Nel's question as to how much money Agliotti had paid to Selebi. Agliotti told the court of the different ways in which Selebi had benefited financially from their relationship, and how he had "looked after" Selebi. This included sponsoring an Interpol dinner in France, and tens of thousands of rands worth of expensive gifts, clothing and luxury handbags for Selebi and his family. Agliotti told the court that his payments to Selebi started with small amounts in envelopes and escalated to large amounts being "packed" into thick envelopes and collected by Selebi from his former fiancée, Dianne Muller's, Midrand office. Agliotti recalled two occasions on which he allegedly handed Selebi R120 000 and R200 000 in cash. The state alleges that the payments were bribes to secure Selebi's influence in crucial police matters. TOPICS IN THIS ARTICLE
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no matter how much much money did you gave to Mr Selebe ,if it was hand cash ,your (Mr agliott) evident very very liitle sense and last i check you(Mr agliott) you said Mr Brett kebble asked you to kiil him
on October 7, 2009, 2:11 pm
Mr Agliotti,no matter how much money did you gave Mr Selebe,if is hand cash,your evidant is very very little because you cannot prove it the second party
on October 7, 2009, 2:44 pm
cross-examination will divulge what kind of witness agliotti is.so far credible evidence has been led against selebi-evidence which suggests a corrupt relationship.but the court does not deal with suggestive evidence but conclusive.hhe,what small feet the former president has but then again,the little imp was the world's smallest president.
zamo gasela on October 7, 2009, 3:07 pm
Does this mean Mbeki is also implicated, im kinder lost as what does the buying of shoe's have to do with anything or is it that the money that was used was dirty?
fana fana on October 7, 2009, 3:23 pm
no paper trails...no real facts..it's one word against the others..money?...what money?
white black on October 7, 2009, 3:27 pm
It is now finish and klaar how SA have been served by these all players around this issue.......my tough goes straight to mbeki....... how came he defended so relentlessy Selebi whitout knowing that is was part of finish and klaar gang???
Joao Baptista on October 7, 2009, 3:36 pm
I cant wait for the dirt to come out. Spill the beans gentleboys.
Erick Mulaudzi on October 7, 2009, 3:51 pm
I wonder why people are summing up this case based upon the prosecution's cross-examinations. They are quick to make conclusions without hearing both side of the story!! Let the law take it's course!
2boy The One on October 7, 2009, 4:02 pm
The problem about spilling beans is that, at times, all you get is hot air ...
The Moxster on October 7, 2009, 4:03 pm
2boy The One its going to be one long course im predicting years here.!!
fana fana on October 7, 2009, 4:17 pm
Mandla, your late friend was right ...
The Moxster on October 7, 2009, 4:39 pm
Mandla - you rate the head of police being a suspect in a case of this magnitude as being small fry? If we cannot trust the head of the police force, what hope of controlling crime are we expected to have? Please get over the racial stereotyping - this is very serious -if the police chief is guilty, he is a huge security risk -about as far from small fry as you can get. Criminals are criminals no matter what colour they happened to be born, and a criminal in a senior position of trust and authority is not small fry. If he is guilty and the court convicts him he will be a much bigger 'result' than any single drug dealer.
Klasie Koek on October 7, 2009, 4:46 pm
Interesting. I wonder if it's a cultural thing. Some people give a president a pair of shoes as a gift, others throw the shoe at the president.
Neville Paynter on October 7, 2009, 5:53 pm
This man wears number 7 shame to MaDlam. I wear size 14
sechaba Motloung on October 7, 2009, 6:11 pm
Lately Pigs are always on the news for all wrong reasons
sechaba Motloung on October 7, 2009, 6:13 pm
Ha ha ha, we are going to hear all the ANC supporters here with their cookie cutter defenses and excuses, "innocent until proven guilty", Apartheid, racism ad nauseum, ad infinitum.
Incapable, incoherent, incomprehensible same old same old same old twisting the truth and racist defence of the thieves who steal food from the mouths of their own children Unable to comprehend the difference between right and wrong, truth and lies. Ha ha ha. ANC lying thieving despicable scumbags. We have been hearing the same stories and the same justifications and the same perverted logic since 28 April 1994 This is going to be great fun!
Pearson B on October 7, 2009, 6:15 pm
Sis maan Mbeki.
Bought you shoes. Buy him back many pairs of socks.
Phumelele Ndengezi on October 7, 2009, 6:16 pm
Agliotti looks dodgy. Mandla, excuse my ignorance, but how is a black criminal an easier target than a white one ?
Pasta Bag on October 7, 2009, 6:16 pm
Yho!
This evidence is just so Hap-hazard!It makes 0.00000000000000000001 sence. Let the real thruth come. I realy M wondering wots this shoe shoping 4 the X-pres got 2 du with this mix-masala.....! Lierz, Cheaters, Stealerz! Yes!
GONONDER OMKHULU on October 7, 2009, 7:14 pm
I did not say Don Selebi is a small fry is isolation but in comparison to the other Dons, I even quantified it in dollars terms. Don Selebi compared with other Dons is a small fry; those Dons buy him clothes, pay him and have got a lot of people in their pockets.
Looking at Don Selebi and what he is suppose to be doing, it’s a real big problem. If you have a corrupt Police Commissioner, then even before we move from the block criminals are half-way to the finishing line. These black criminals are soft targets compared with their white counter-parts coz even when the law is after them they stick around but a white one takes the 1st flight to any European country.
Mandla Hanise on October 7, 2009, 7:57 pm
This Aglioti guy should be coming to court from prison cells. What evidence does he have of giving Selebi mula? His drug dealing cases alone should be enough to put him in jail for many years. He is a CRIMINAl FINISH AND KLAAR and should be locked up.
Kurauone Zvaramba on October 7, 2009, 9:01 pm
Ya hey this aggliotti character is quite a dodgy one,he is an unreconstructed bigot with his eyes onto a promised land(amnesty),he is evidence sounds too good to be true,it would take a lot of time and effort for any right thinking and reasonable judge to be convinced by this!! Good luck Aggliotti
jack masha on October 8, 2009, 9:31 am
Please guys let us not be fooled by pair of shoes,is got nothing to do with the case,And i don't know why it was mentioned from the first place.Mr Agliotti has got no facts,is almost 4 days now but he doesn't come up with a concrete informations.if he paid Selebi R1 million,He must produce bank statement or whatsoever to show the court that he really made the payments.......otherwise He must forget...He won't win the case!
Gontse Magano on October 8, 2009, 7:29 pm
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