A 'third force' at work in Selebi trial?

Who is the third force? Judge Joffe must find out who leaked this info to the press and that person must be charged with contempt of court.

For every ANC man in trouble, Mo Shaik can provide a ‘get out of jail free’ tape.

Arg Moloko, that is a load of irrational and mischievous drivel!!!!!!!!

Moloko...Get real!

sure; why not? The 'third force' insinuation has worked well in the past. Maybe it's worth another run?

Moloko Moloko. You must be high on your own socks my broer.Are you aware that there is a legal process going in this case.Clearly you dont,by vertue of you pop corn mind thinking.The Judge is raising a serious potential legal challenge,where he may be found or accused of having based his rulling on influences external from the legal evidence and submissions done in a court of law. Tell us where you come from sothat we can advice other people never to set foot in that place were you from.

The problem with '3rd force' interference, is that the case is immediately dropped, without proving or disproving corruption.

Sinudeity,

Are you using the genuine politically motivated case of JZ to make such dangerous and naive sweeping statements, or do you have others to enlighten us?????

Isn’t the City Press in contempt of court for breaking the sub judice rule?

You know it is so amazing that people still leave in the past,no matter what good you can do,they forget it easily,but when you do bad that is what they will always hold against you.
For once,people should just forget about the ANC, and focus on reason because it seems like for everything that goes wtong,the ANC or JZ would be mentioned.
I am not saying this organisation never had mistakes,or JZ is an angel,no,but why cant we leave the past in the past and move on.

Nahor Ecnarraf/Sinudeity @gmail.com

The Judge is actually the one that brought up the "3rd force" theory"! In this case, the 3rd force will not lead to charges being dropped but will lead to punishing those that leaked the video to the press!!

Pay attention!! don't jump the gun!!

2boy The One on October 20, 2009, 2:20 pm

'...In this case, the 3rd force will not lead to charges being dropped but will lead to punishing those that leaked the video to the press!!...'

However, in another case, i.e. the one against JZ, the person who illegally obtained and leaked the tapes was promoted to head of the NIA. O the double standards in your corrupt ANC.

This must be the "Delta Force" with Chuck Norris.... Only Chuck Norris can find Jackie Selebi guilty.

moloko moloko

who leaked the tapes and got promoted moloko?

Once again Moloko, you simply don't understand what 2Boy is saying! As usual, all DA supporters misguidedly think that our justice system only function properly when anything connected to the ANC is found guilty!

Moloko,do you suggest that we should have just buried our heads in the sand and pretended that there weren't any tapes.I am ver happy that the tapes in the JZ case were revealed because they exposed the dirty backdoor dealings that the NPA and Ngcuka were involved in.
Granted,the tapes could have been illegally obtained but the bigger picture was that Ngcuka,Pikoli,Mcarthy,Mbeki were dealing in character assassination plots against JZ and other ANc leaders.

".. Starring Forest Whitaker as Jackie Selebi, James Gandolfini as Glenn Agliotti in the movie 'The Third Force', available on leaked DvDs at a store or a street stand near you.."

i wouldn't be surprised if Jackie Selebi is 'directly or in directly' involved with leaking out the unknown tape.. The man has influential friends in places whereby the sun doesn't even shine on a Sunday morning, in conference rooms blinded from the world in a blind fold called - 'Annual General Meetings, boardrooms filled with old man with pot bellies, smoking expensive cigars smuggled in baby nappies from Communist Cuba, ol'farts drinking Pink Champel (single ladies!), decadence of 'old money' - burp'in instructions from their left wing - 'in god we trust..'..

'Third Force influences' had influenced the courtroom proceedings, even before the trail even begun, when the Selebi trial was still a 'thought on a piece of paper'..

Facts and stuff like that

I totally agree with your point, however, in this trial of Selebi, the tapes are coming forward and being submitted as evidence in a trial. People witness these tapes; the M&G refers to this court room as a cinema.

In JZ’s trial, the tapes, the contents, the source, the authenticity, nothing is known. This was not transparent and the fact that Ngcuka,Pikoli,Mcarthy,Mbeki was recorded as persecuting other ANC members is hearsay until these tapes are made public.

What I’m saying, and the point I tried to make to 2Boy, is that here we have more tapes from an unknown source(s), the legality of the recordings is questionable (unknown) which is being used as leverage in high ranked criminal cases.

People implicated in evidence in a court of law should be brought to justice. If you say Ngcuka,Pikoli,Mcarthy,Mbeki was implicated in criminal activities, let them be held accountable. If information can be used to free someone, surely it can be used to prosecute the transgressor?

Moloko

For the time being, please consult your "glorious" NPA for stuffing up the whole case. The ANC should not be blamed for the incompetence of the DSO/NPA!

bla! bla! bla! bla! lets continue wasting tax payers money bcose when the third force is mentioned, the case is as good as finished and somebody is going to be promoted soon. Good for you Mr Selebi for using that good old get out of jail free card.