Zim rivals 'committed to making unity govt work'

The driver and navigator can talk all they like. The car has broken down and talking is not going to fix it. "Zimbabwe's cash strapped government has managed to raise only US$5.7 million out of $48 million it had planned to use to fund agricultural production this season, the ministry of agriculture said on Tuesday." If only 12% of the funds were raised and disbursed, then production is going to fall through the floor. Starvation and deprivation to follow.

Zim leaders! What exactly is "commitment" in your vocab.........

AAAAG Please STOP!

Arrest MUGABE and his WIFE – TODAY - for human rights abuses and a lot of other atrocities – NOW!
And Zimbabwe will be FREE to start t
he healing process… TODAY!

Chase away those children of ZANU(PF) enroled at South African Universities for heavens' sake. They are draining the little that is being donated to the people of Zimbabwe by Western well wishers and Mugabe takes that money to spoil children of his military and CIO's. Please South Africans help Zimbabwerans. Go and demonstrate at Foret Hare, University of KwaZulu Natal and many other such Universities where Mugabe is spending more than US$40 million per year on cronies children fees and welfare.

The SADC should have hammered Mugabe years ago, but did nothing. That's why there is such a mess north of the Limpopo.

Rod, you got it right. SADC is a dead-end entity that should long have kicked Mugabe in the [political] b**t. Look, the guy has been going on since 1980, long past his sale-by-date. He now thinks he is indispensible, because that's what his cronies tell him. So if there's anybody who can light a match under his feet, it's SADC, but we all know they're flat wine. So if Morgan can shake the tree a bit, then the worms might tumble down. If he can't, Zimbos are now ready for a MAJOR uprising. Who want's to come on board?

If ZANU is committed then why dont they fir Tomasa, considering even the other lawyers hate him and have called for his investigation:

http://www.radiovop.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=7398&Itemid=171

Rejoice Ngwenya it's interesting how you can claim that Zimbos are ready for a major uprising then in the same vain ask for volunteers. You know in your heart of hearts that the generality of Zimbabweans are not interested in these political shenanigans as long as things are working as they are now. They are not bothered about which politician has got which job. I am afraid you are on your own when it comes to MAJOR uprisings.

None of the civic organisations can mobilise enough people for any uprising let alone you or the MDC. You can keep on wishing for some major uprising and being a PC activist while real people deal with real issues like SADC is doing and has been doing.

Alisdair you need to stop visiting those hopeless news sites like vop and sokwanele. They raise your hopes up too much. None of them are in touch with what Zimbabweans really need. They spend their time reporting on what they want for Zimbabweans and not what Zimbabweans really need just like you.

The MDC should just be banned, they don't stand a chance, the majority of zimbabweans all support Mugabe as evidenced by the votes and the fact that nobody there is saying anything against him, the newspapers also all vouch for Bob's integrity. I mean, just how bad can life be if Bob keeps exploiting his country for the benefit of anybody that is prepared to pay him? Stop this bleeding-heart stuff, nobody really cares about sick and useless people. There are still a lot of whites living in luxury in zimbabwe without a single thought for any poor people around them.

All the lies about Zimbabwe failed to get the country suspended from KP. When the leaders of Zimbabwe say they are committed let no external forces try to pre-judge such statements as happened when the GPA was signed and when it was eventually consumated. The fact that organisations like HRW have been trying to abuse their high sounding names to influence the country's politics have not gone unnoticed by SADC and the AU.

It is sad when pseudo Human Rights defenders abuse their name to interfere with a country's affairs. The whole coalition of HRW, Amnesty International, International Bar Association's bias and selfish interest have not escaped SADC's eye. We have the LSZ sponsored by the Bar Assoc, ZLHR sponsored by HRW trying to influence who should be the attorney general through sponsored meetings and threats. This luckily may have worked in the west but will not work in Zimbabwe.

The HRW's heavily doctored report failed to work with the KP in Namibia and it definately will not work with SADC. Instead of them campaigning that Zimbabwe be able to exploit its diamonds for the better of its population they campaign for a ban which will only lead to smuggling, chaos or civil war and continued economic decline. Where is the logic in that?

poking nose: MDC actually won the elections. No matter who small the margin was.

Sinudeity @gmail.com, why isn't Tsvangirai president? Why does Zanu PF have more ministries than MDC-T if MDC-T won the election? Are you only looking at election results that support your assertion and not the full results of the whole process? Please don't tell me you are combining MDC-T and MDC-M as they are totally distinct parties with different ideologies.

Zanu PF 100 parliamentary seats (inc J Moyo formerly independent)
MDC-T 100 parliamentary seats
MDC-M 10
Zanu PF 30 senate seats
MDC-T 24 senate seats
MDC-M 6 senate seats

So no, MDC did not win the election unless you have never heard of a hung parliament which was the result here.

Fungayi: Wrong.

PF won 99 seats, and MDC won a 100. You probably got the presidential elections wrong as well: MDC 47% and ZanuPF 43%.

Mmm... Thats strange.

I wonder why Bob is still president?

@ Sinudeity - Bob is still President because Zimbabweans to include the fiery 2-in-1 opposition, namely MDC-T and MDC-M, still found him fit for that office. SIMPLE, STRAIGHTFORWARD.


To confirm this position they glady signed up to the GNU agreement. Not only that they accepted that the reforms Bob hd initiated were irreversible and should continue to be supported.E.g. Bob agreed to Gono's sugggestion for a multi-currency economy. The benefits of this move we all now know - the zillion inflation figure has tumbled, and this year Zim will register a decent 3-6% economic growth. The growth is partly due to the Gono move and partly also to the thawing of relations whee countries that were supporting MDC-T and MDC-M have ceased their clandestine destabilisation of the ZIm economy and now are / or investing seriously in Zim.


Add to this, MDC-T and MDC-M were happy to acknowledge the existence of illegal sanctions (fondly referred to as smart sanctions) and committed themselves to confront those countries, friend or foe, to lift these illegal sanctions.


By signiing the GNU agreement, they agreed to join Bob's government and to rebrand it the Unity government.


We all know that a few months into the Unity Government, MDC-T leader toured the Western capitals to tell the doubting Thomases who had been supporting his bid for Zim presidency that all is now well. He even met ZIm diaspor to relay the same message and to encourage them to trek back to Zim. Following this bold declaration the UK, a staunch supporter for change in Zim, is now offering cash incentives to Zimbos in the UK who want to return home.


So yes Bob is still President because the enlightened opposition leaders who enjoy the mandate of their supporters themselves patriotic Zimbabweans agreed to this arrangement and in addition endosred most of the actions by the Z-PF government (e.g. land reform was noted as being necessary and irreversible.)

Zimbabwe's political impasse is far from over as long as Mugabe is still in power, he has been pledging his loyalty to the unity government that is diabolic lies

dread6: I thought it was because in the runoff elections, intimidation caused the MDC(T) to pull out. 30 MDC members killed, and 39,000 MDC supporters displaced by Bob loyal militia's.

And speaking of 'democracy', wasnt there a referendum on 'land reform' as well? What about the fact, that zanu has twice as many senators, if there was a 2% difference in the spread?

Power to the people?

Sadc Secretary-General Tomaz Salamao is talking a lot of nonsense that, "all parties remain committed to the nation's power-sharing deal. It would have been better to keep quiet that open his mouth to talk rubbish. Surely, Salamao wouldn't expect Tsvangirai or Mugabe to say they are not committed even if they know it will all end in tears. This is not a power-sharing deal to start with. This secret arrangement has only excerbated an already volatile situation. I hold no brief for the MDC but it is patently clear that Mugabe has more power than Tsvangirai and is doing what he likes. Why is Tsvangirai referred to as Prime Minister yet he only controls those ministers only from his MDC party? The secret agreement will never work because ther is the state, or rather, ZANUPF-owned Herald newspaper which churns out anti-MDC language on a fulltime basis. The newspaper does nothing else but slaughter Tsvangirai and the MDC everyday without any let up as if the MDC is some party from Mars. Anyone who thinks this agreement is going to work needs his/her head examined. To say ZANUPF is pretty hostile to the MDC is an undestatement. We can't even say that SADC is partly to blame but wholly to blame for the farce by turning a blind eye to blatant indiscretions by Mugabe and ZANUPF. The people of Zimbabwe should decide freely who rules them not who speaks loudest of the three so-called principals or who is the Regional body's favourite. What Mugabe or ZANUPF did before 1980 is not our business: it was their choice nobody requested them to do whatever they say they did. SADC and AU say, "Africa's problems should be solved by Africans" yet there are unable to solve the Zimbabwean thing. All that's required is a free and fair election (the best and only sensible solution) and supine SADC can't seem to see it that way.

Sinudeity @gmail.com, like I have already mentioned you seem to only pay attention those things that support your asertion rather than real facts. If you read my analysis again you will see that I said Zanu PF has 100 seats which includes Jonathan Moyo who rejoined the party after winning his seat as an independent. In electoral terms that cancels out MDC-T.

To demonstrate your ignorance about Zimbabwe you asked whether there was a referendum on land reform. No there wasn't but there was a referendum on a draft constitution which gave the government power to redistribute land without compensation. People voted No not because of the provision on land but because they were misinformed that the new constitution gave Mugabe too much power and meant that he will never leave office by MDC and the white farmers. When they campaigned for the No vote they never highlighted the provision on land for obvious reasons. The only people who knew why they voted No were white farmers. Most people never read the draft.

Call it shooting yourself in the foot. Mugabe is still president with the same powers, the land has been taken albeit chaotic but taken all the same. Maybe if they white farmers had not carried out their campaign of misinformation alongside MDC, land refornm would have been more orderly and most them would have been left with part of their farms.

Zanu PF won the elections and they control both houses as they have a good working relationship with MDC-M. This leaves MDC-T as a minority in both houses.

'Most people never read the draft' - So thats how you disregards the vote of the people?

The referendum was about giving bob too much power. To confiscate land without compensation for redistribution AND, that zanu officials may not be prosecuted.

55% of Zimbabwe voted no for the referendum. Bob went at it anyways. Thats a 10% margin. The zim elections finished MDC with a 4% margin. But it was 'too close to call'.

So zanu just resorted itself to flogging more opposition supporters.

What are the odds, that in an election where theres no voter and opposition intimidation, zanu will come out tops?

Liberators turning into oppressors. You are either a peasant, or an oppressor.

Dear All above,

I am quite well aware of the actual situation in Zim and who is telling the truth and who is spreading lies and propoganda, in order to keep a sick, senile race hate filled, petty, vindictive old man in power until he dies in power, having his nappies changed by Zuma, Mbeki and Kabila.

I have direct contacts in Zim, including the rural areas.

And everyone in the World, and the rest of Africa is quite well aware of who is a professional journalist and who is an internet CIO operative willing to defend the destruction of millions of Black African lives, rather than admit what colour Joe Slovo and Trevor Huddleston were.

What do you really think you look like to the rest of Africa, like ECOWAS, who just suspended Niger? Or Brasil, the largest Africa Diaspora in the World?

When you rant about an idiot who "Liberation Hero" Credentials were stolen from ZAPU, who actually did most of the real work, and whose greatest acheivements so far are the slaughter of 20,000 mtabeles and the driving of 800,000 Black Africans out of their homes and businesses on Africa Day may 25th 2005?

Most Zims would like to be a colony again, because Smith andthe Rhodesians were never as bad as Mugabe and the SADC.

Mugabe is our leader, and our comander in chief, we told you all that Morgan will be back, undeducated fool he is, now he has announced he is rejoining goverment, what a sisi, we will not let MDC get any more power, no i say, Zanu till Jesus comes

Alisdair Budd typical British way, rewriting history to suit your own views. ZAPU did most of the work? As a Zimbabwean I would know better about the liberation struggle than someone who does not even know the history of his country's central involvement in slavery. Next you will be telling us Britain won the world war.

Please do not insult us, most Zimbabweans would like to be a colony again? What are you smoking or sniffing? I think you should concern yourself more with your country's debacle in Afghanistan where you are trying to impose "democracy" by endorsing a cheat and women's right trampler.

Mugabe is our hero whether you like it or not just like Churchill is your hero. Deal with it!

Fungayi, how would you know? You are sitting in England. Enjoying a 1st world country, because you couldn't handle living in Zim anymore.

Enjoy your weekend in the mother of all colonies. Im sure its very nice, as compared to people being flogged or starved in Zimbabwe.