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Call for explanation over Malema's costly VIP protection

JOHANNESBURG, SOUTH AFRICA Nov 10 2009 09:50
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Civil rights group AfriForum will send a letter to Police Minister Nathi Mthethwa on Tuesday to request an explanation for African National Congress Youth League (ANCYL) leader Julius Malema's costly police protection.

"According to the Promotion of Administrative Justice Act, any person or persons affected by the administrative actions of anyone in a decision-making capacity may apply in writing to be informed about the reasons for such a decision," AfriForum lawyer Willie Spies said in a statement.

"If the reasons provided are deemed to be inadequate, the applicant may then submit a revision application against the decision to the Supreme Court."

Spies said the tax-paying public had a right to know why the leader of the ANCYL needed state-funded VIP protection.

"Mr Malema is not even a public official. Last year, the VIP protection of the Congress of the People leader, Mr Mosiuoa Lekota, was terminated with immediate effect when he resigned as MP and minister," said Spies.

"In addition, the average South African has to get by on a daily basis without any kind of protection, while being in peril of life due to the high levels of violent crime in their homes and places of employment."

As soon as the minister replies, AfriForum will decide whether to apply for a judicial review of the Malema decision.

Weekend media reports suggested his VIP protection would cost in the region of R300 000 per month. -- Sapa

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This is unbelievable. I am paying for Malema's sercurity! I mean who in this world may want to harm Malema. Thank GOD AfriForum has raised this. I do not care what the Ministry of Police says but Malema is a comidian and no one is going to harm him.
Mshula Inc. on November 10, 2009, 10:16 am
Take the issue to court. malema is not a government official, and does not deserve protection. If his life is in danger, he should call the police, like everyone else, who is not a goverment official.
Sinudeity @gmail.com on November 10, 2009, 10:29 am
According to the law, any South African citizen who believes that they are in danger may apply to the SAPS to obtain VIP protection. They will investigate and if your claims are found to be true, they shall forward your request to the police minister for approval.

so whats the noise all abt??
frank Talk on November 10, 2009, 12:12 pm
I speak a lot of hoagwash and I think my life is in danger, can I be provided with VIP protection please!!!!
Lawrence Sandile on November 10, 2009, 12:16 pm
Given the spat between the Minister and his deputy, I wonder just who authorised Young Julius's babysitting service? My money is Fikile. Oh wait, that's right, doesn't matter. My tax money is being used to protect this scumbag regardless of who the farque signed the form. Vive les chiens!
Set Lah on November 10, 2009, 12:21 pm
frank Talk: Do you think ANY OTHER South African citizen, will have access to VIP protection? Ive had threats before from Proudly etc. But do you think, I will be afforded VIP protection?

You can even use farmers as an example, they have made regular cases with government to protect them. Government ignores them, and they get murdered.

COSATU also brought this up, why does juju get special privilege?

Like I said, this is all just an attempt for juju to get off his speeding ticket, and not to be CRIMINALLY CHARGED, for driving with an illegal blue light.
Sinudeity @gmail.com on November 10, 2009, 12:33 pm
Malema deserve the protection because he is the president of the youth but him must pay for such protection on his own pocket becuse he is not a government official.
skhumbuzo ndlovu on November 10, 2009, 1:06 pm
in the meantime (before Juju becomes President Juju) he should just call SAPS like everyone else, if he feels threatened. They may even come over that same week (providing they have a free vehicle, and/or petrol).
Nahor Ecnarraf on November 10, 2009, 1:21 pm
Sinudeity, anyone in SA, can get VIP protection, this is how to go by,1st write a letter to the minister of Police, Nathi Mthethwa:
Private Bag X463, Pretoria 0001 or fax:012 2812, or Private Bag X9080, Cape Town 8000 or fax:021 467 7036,
upon receipt of letter the crime Intelligence Unit, will investigate your claims.
the outcome will be send to TOP COP, Bheki Cele, then he will convice Nathi Mthethwa that the real threat exist, then walla!!! here comes the VIP protection, simple,
UNLESS YOU THINK THEY WONT BE ABLE TO ASSIST YOU CAUSE THEY ARE BLACKS, AND THEY ARE INCOMPETENT.
zach chauke on November 10, 2009, 1:25 pm
Mr. Malema is a goose that is about to lay a golden egg, Animal Farm-1209 means the Nationalization of our Mineral Resources and it is against this very background that this young fellow should keep his VIP.

If Mr. Malema steps out of line with this Nationalization of our Mineral Resources and Animal Farm-1209 finds itself in the same room with him, there would be a pool of blood on the floor and at Animal Farm-1209, we are sure as hell it won’t be ours.

Nationalization of our Mineral Resources Now!!
Animal Farm-1209 on November 10, 2009, 1:32 pm
zach chauke

1. did juju apply for VIP protection
2. did the crime investigation unit investigate
3.
moloko moloko on November 10, 2009, 1:50 pm
ANC is joke. If there are really serious about true and transperant governency they must cut youth league powers becuase there are just a bunch of jokers..
daniel mangena on November 10, 2009, 1:50 pm
Mshula Inc:

Malema requires urgent and full-proof security. He has taken a very critical assignment, to question the economic status-quo. There are so many people who would be affected morally and materially by what Malema has started and attempts on his life may be contemplated.

If you do not understand this, you will when you mature, grow-up or age-off later in life.
bantu nzira on November 10, 2009, 1:54 pm
...
3. was the reccommendation sent to Bheki Cele
4. Was there a meeting/cor between Cele and Mthethwa to validate the threat???
moloko moloko on November 10, 2009, 1:56 pm

zach chauke. Seems like a very long process. Do you perhaps have
Nathi Mthethwa's cell number. Like to speed up things - blue lights in short supply
Andre Scheepers on November 10, 2009, 2:04 pm
zach chauke: Nope, they wount assist, because, they are not politically connected.
Sinudeity @gmail.com on November 10, 2009, 2:09 pm
It's bizarre that some people are defending this. I know of no other country where someone who is not in an official position (elected or appointed) who qualifies for VIP protection. In the US, a presidential candidate may be placed under protection long before the election. But not a leader of the youth wing of a party.

See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Secret_Service for how this happens in the US.
Philip Machanick on November 10, 2009, 2:12 pm
this is so unnecessary, if Malema has so many enemies then he's got himself to blame. He's a victim of his own success, so why should the public pay for his stupid utterences that has earned him such hate?
300k per month could help build about three to four RDP houses than to spend it on an individual who suffers from severe diarhoea of speech.
songezo fitshane on November 10, 2009, 2:15 pm
Zach. If that is the case can you put all the relevant information on this forum sothat we may all apply for protection as all our lives are in danger. Malema has brought his danger about himself ala very very big mouth. The ANC should be paying for his protection as he is one of their elected kindergarten. It has nothing to do with us. Will they also pay for the leaders of the other youth leagues? Guaranteed if I were to apply I'd be dead before I got an answer. How did motormouth get such a speedy resolution? Let him sell his Merc AMG to pay for his security.
Tiger Lily on November 10, 2009, 2:16 pm
There is report by the intelligence which claims that white South African hate Malema, I guess that why he got VIP protection. Zilla do you see what you have done? R300K is being spent (of our moneny) to protect this crazy man becuase of your hatred for him
African Mzansi on November 10, 2009, 2:16 pm
Can someone please kill Malema. That should solve many current and future problems.
Khalsa Singh on November 10, 2009, 2:18 pm
Mzansi: And zille is hated by ANC fanboys. Difference is, Zille is a government official. Juju, is just a leader of one of the wings, of a political party. The youth wing.

When was the last time a politician, actually got 'assassinated' in South Africa? The only political violence occurring is between IFP/ANC.
Sinudeity @gmail.com on November 10, 2009, 2:28 pm
@ zach chauke - so does this mean I can send Nathi Mthethwa an invoice for my panic buttons, burglar bars, security gates, electric fence, alarm system and armed response? I'm a cheap VIP. Only R3,000 a month. I plan to include these items in my tax return this year and claim the money back.
Maylani Bezuidenhout on November 10, 2009, 2:30 pm
Mzansi, what are you smoking?????? I HATE Malema but I would never kill him. I'd rather leave him to make a bigger fool of himself. He is his own worst enemy. And by the way I have many friends of colour that hate him as much as I do. Unlike, you Mzansi we don't follow our leaders like sheep. We do and think for ourselves and besides when has Zilla ever advocated violence? Wasn't she on the receiving end of threats from Malema etc? Did she ask for protection? Malema is a big baby. Spews his mouth off but then runs to daddy (Zuma) when he is challanged.
Tiger Lily on November 10, 2009, 2:32 pm
Let's be honest.Mr. Malema suspected that his life was in danger, followed procedure and alerted those responsible, an assessment was conducted and the result was that he qualified for protection.Now if Sinudeity et al fear that their lives are in danger, let them apply for protection and stop making unnecessary noise. I still have to meet someone who genuinely applied for such protection, and was unfairly discriminated.
mphahlele monyela on November 10, 2009, 2:45 pm
monyela: Too much of our tax payer money is being wasted on the ANC. Juju lives in a big house in Sandton, drives a luxury vehicle. Lithuli house has more than enough to pay for his protection.

Why should the tax payers, pay any more for the ANC? Dont you think there have been enough money wasted on 5 star hotel stays and luxury vehicles already this year?

If you are in favour of this, please contact SARS, and ask them to push up YOUR personal tax rate, to afford juju his entourage.
Sinudeity @gmail.com on November 10, 2009, 2:53 pm
If you are going to call for people to kill for Zuma and to kill Jansen then you shouldn’t be surprised that people want to kills you. This guy is so controversial so why is he surprised if somebody wants to kill him? He is just a little boy, a scaredy cat!
Concerned Citizen on November 10, 2009, 3:04 pm
This is just what this government is all about, cronyism,self serving and with no regards at all for the public.



Even the Ministers don't deserve the kind of security that they have.I have been to the Western countries and found myself in the queue at a Supermarket with a government minister sans bodyguard.People there regard their ministers as workers elected to do their jobs.If they don't they are voted out of office.



What is happening in this country is a government full of useless people who worry day and night about their status and how big and expensive their car is.



No one in this country's government cares about the common people.Come on if the first decision and most significant thing he does is to provide Julius with a VIP protection,one wonders what we should expect from him.




Vote for stupid people and get stupid decisions and indecisions.
Evans Mazi on November 10, 2009, 3:06 pm
Some should shoot him, he is an embarresment to S.A, he is an idiot with a "loaded gun"
Ron Kribb on November 10, 2009, 3:17 pm
A coward boasting of his courage may deceive strangers, but he is a laughing-stock to those who know him.
Author: Phaedrus

Andre Scheepers on November 10, 2009, 3:57 pm
@Khalsa and Ron Kribb, watch what you say, the DA might lay charges about your hate speech of killing Malema, but on the second thought you can go ahead black person's life means nothing to DA, they wont even bother to say a damn thing, it might offend their whites voters, is this true? or is this true?, Sinudeity?
zach chauke on November 10, 2009, 4:30 pm
who cares,for malema to get VIP protection, but anyway who cares this country is going down the drain we are in the animal farm. i hope people vote with mind than heart.
mukondeleli steve on November 10, 2009, 5:27 pm
This fat little Piglet is in danger owing to the infighting in the remains of the ANC. Though, of course, he has absolutely NO RIGHT to public funding for his nannies.

The scrabbling around the swine trough has started turning deadly. Piglet has too much dirt on too many of the Big Fat Mafuta Pigs. They all know it -- all are doing the same thing (it is Animal Farm meets Byzantium). And we are going to see the swindling and the manoeuvering, the blackmailing, the litigation, the redeploying and the paying-off turn into foul play.

The knives are being drawn in that House of Cards named Luthuli, and we are going to see mayhem as never before.
Citizen Mntu on November 10, 2009, 11:53 pm
It is public knowledge that many in the ANC are very worried about the antics of Piglet. They have said as much. And they have also said that there's nothing much they can do about him.

And we know he is quietly and persistently building up a huge populist support base. Piglet is the most cunning of the whole ghastly lot, and he has the most time to spare. Piglet is young and he can wait. He is a national danger, as well as a danger to so many ANC members on whom he has 'the dirt'.

If you play with knives, for knives you must beware. (Old Sicilian saying)
Citizen Mntu on November 11, 2009, 12:04 am
South Africa is being bled to death by idiots, like communists controlled ANC. ANCYL is running this country no doubts about that.
jason rappss on November 11, 2009, 2:34 am
Lets, give him his VIP, lets give him a big black car with blue lights, oh! and lets make sure his VIP guys, have ear pieces and black suits, oh! and please lets make sure that all malema's VIP warriors get black sunglasses. Then maybe that lytie will be happy! And maybe we can give him a chef of his own, oh! and remember a Jet, maybe we can call it Arsehole 1. Damn, things like this really make me angry, I am a simple worker like so many millions South Africans, we work hard and stand for this country when the whole world is slamming us, then we have idiots like this who take us back down!
m m on November 11, 2009, 10:41 am
If ever there was proof that man created god, and in his own image was he created, then this individual is it.
Strange that other 'gods' don't need protection from man.
The Wizzard on November 15, 2009, 7:19 pm
Malema and his ilk are like infants who want to run, knowing that they not even capable of crawling.
daniel koen on November 18, 2009, 8:08 am
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