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Nigeria says trade unfairly tilted towards South Africa

ABUJA, NIGERIA Nov 14 2009 07:21
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Nigeria's Vice-President Goodluck Jonathan on Friday said trade with South Africa was unfairly tilted in favour of the latter.

Jonathan spoke as the two largest economies in sub-Saharan African kicked off celebrations to mark a decade of bilateral ties under the aegis of the Nigeria/South Africa Bi-National Commission
(BNC).

He said concerns are that bilateral relations have yielded enormous benefits for South African entrepreneurs with investment in Nigeria while there were little or no opportunities for Nigerians to do real business in the Southern African country.

"Some Nigerians have questioned the very rationale for the BNC if our relations and the benefits they confer are so skewed and if South African authorities are engaged in alleged acts of discrimination against Nigerian visitors, residents and businesses in South Africa," he said.

Business people from the two countries opened talks on Friday to seek ways to level the playing field.

"I strongly suspect that in the course of your deliberations, there will be strong complaints from Nigerians who want something done about the balance of business opportunities," he said.

South African Vice-President Kgalema Motlanthe is expected to address the forum on Saturday.

Official sources in South Africa say more than 100 South African companies operate in Nigeria, a jump from only four before 1999.

The largest of them are in banking, telecommunications, retail and the entertainment business.

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No figures of Nigerian outfits that have set up shop in South African were readily available.

South Africa, one of the continent's largest oil consumers, gets most of its crude requirements from the Middle East, yet Nigeria is one of Africa's two top oil producers.

South Africa's Deputy Trade and Industry Minister Bongi Maria Ntuli said that Nigeria, Africa's most populous country, is her country's second largest trading partner on the continent.

"As an open economy, we welcome new investment and collaborative partnerships in key areas of opportunity -- all uniquely poised to deliver real competitive advantage," Ntuli said.

The suspected involvement of Nigerians in crimes in South Africa -- from internet scams to the production of fake South African identity cards, passports, immigration and marriage documents -- is one of the sore points in relations between the two countries. - AFP
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Do we have to wonder why trade is skewed in favour of SA? Nigeria is corrupt, inept and very, very inefficient. Even its citizens living in SA agree.

That SA businesses are flourishing in Migeria is because of sound business acumen and legitimate dealings.

Nigerians businessmen are painted with the same brush of their countrymen's malfeasances and undrehand dealings.

As long as crooks as apleenty in Nigeria, nothing good any Nigerian does will be noticed.

ephraim ndlovu on November 14, 2009, 10:50 am
It is all not new to us, We know very well Nigeria is immensely Corrupt, Now it seems as if they transported this ill corruption cancer to South Africa which is going to be extremly hard to root it out. Millions of them came to South Africa of course to illicit so why should they be Trusted when it is known the whole world of their Corruptionnes. You even cannot trust them even as so called Pastors.
nhlanhla mngomezulu on November 14, 2009, 12:45 pm
I am not surprised to see this. I wonder who is more corrupt now. From arms deal to home affairs saga to armscor to everywhere. From child rape to old women rape to killing for one rand to unimaginable madness. The only reason SA business thrives in Nigeria is because Nigerians are more large hearted unlike South Africans that are full of hate. It takes 1000 years to heal you of the madness the apartheid has instilled into you. It is here govenment plays politics with the lives of fireigners.
I wonder who is more intelligent. Hardly can any south african man, especially black,thrive outside their country. Even at home, they need afirmative action to survive. Somalis sell more to their locals than the dumb local traders. Rather than being ashamed, they kill those ones. Nigerians are everywhere in your country. In your hospitals, your universities, your corporate organisations and every where. The only thing you people could do is to drink beer and rape. Lazy folks. Do you know your government just sent another request to Nigeria to help them to recruit science and maths teachers? You would never know because you are too ignorant. Old fools.
Boboma Koroma on November 14, 2009, 12:54 pm
Nigeria has precious little to offer aside from oil and maybe one or two specialist items whereas SA has a significantly sophisticated economy that is huge by comparison (check the CIA's World Factbook to see just how massive the difference is) which has much to offer Nigeria and the rest of Africa.

In addition Nigeria has the reputation for massive corruption, appears to export Internet financial scams and drug dealers so I expect almost anybody has reservations about getting involved in many areas. This is what the whole world appears to think, not my bias, I merely mention it; even Nigerians in SA confirm this fact as does decades of Independent history.

To expect parity would be a joke.

There are niches Nigeria should wake up to, like its beautiful and colourful African fashion industry to mention just one. I suspect this could be a reasonably big net exporter to SA but also appears to be asleep.
Paul Aarden on November 14, 2009, 6:45 pm
@Mngomezulu, there is corruption all over the world including the US. I have met many Nigerians in the US and many of them are not corrupt as you painted them. There are many highly skilled Nigerians working in SA doing jobs that SA doesn't have skilled people to perform. The advantage that SA has is its vast private sector that was set up by the white in SA. These companies are moving all over Africa setting up businesses and making money. In Nigeria, that country set up a group of state own businesses that are corrupted and losing money. These companies can't compete with the SA private own companies. This is why many Nigerians are saying that the blacks in SA are blessed that the whites stayed in SA and left too soon from Nigeria. The problem is how a country deals with corruption that matters and the crooks in SA are doing the same thing that Nigerians or the Americans are doing. In the US if you are caught, you can have your wealth taken and given a lot of time in jail. In most places in Africa the legal system is so weak that they can't put people away for corruption. Finally, why was Shaik let out jail on medical ground because he's going to die so they say?
Sterling Ferguson on November 14, 2009, 6:49 pm
Stating that Nigeria has only oil to offer, is grossly underestimating the potential of the country's human capital - not merely because it is Africa's most populous nation. In my experience Nigerians living in SA are highly intelligent, if perhaps uneducated, and keenly business-minded. Yes, most of them are illegal immigrants and yes, most of their business is with the shadow economy, but they are not by nature 'corrupt, inept and inefficient'. Corruption is not an innate quality. It is a result of circumstance; a calculated response to a scenario presenting opportunities and impediments. The success of Nigerian crime syndicates thus proves that they are neither inept nor inefficient. Is this not perhaps a situation where necessity has dictated a misappropriation of talent?
Mieke Fourie on November 14, 2009, 8:35 pm
Who will allow Nigerians to trade in their home country. I have a nigerian friends they always tell me that in nigerian people have to sleep with their eyes opened and they have to use their bags has a pillow So that their passport and money are safe.
pingpong afrijap on November 16, 2009, 3:44 am
Don't worry, once criminal activity is included in the trade stats as proposed by the ANC, things should even out.
SA Eish on November 16, 2009, 5:20 am
In third possition it's (CIA). In second possition (INTERNET) in the first possition it's the usual. It has hold this possition for a long time even the CIA have failed, this group is even beyond the INTERNET. This is non other then NIGERIAN 419. Let clap for them has they come to forward to South Africa
pingpong afrijap on November 16, 2009, 6:22 am
@Ephraim Ndlovu. My point exactly. Nigerians have crafted for themselves a niche to corrupt the world. From drugs to everything called scams.

We need less of them than they need us. Period. If their politicians, who probably also benefit from the illicit trade of their brothers, complain about the skewed nature of busines, they must clean their act. From Johannesburg to London, form Los Angeles to Sydney, Nigerians are one song : Trouble.
Ted sigonyela on November 16, 2009, 7:55 am
South Africa is the china of africa.
We even call each other "chinas"
mj sun on November 16, 2009, 10:42 am
@ Ferguson, I dont know where you came from, I leave and worked in Nigeria, I breath Nigeria, eat Nigeria and sleep Nigeria. For your own information i dont paint e`m. Yes true they might be doing jobs my own pupil dont qualify to do cuz of your own Apartheid system you run by being savaging your own fellow country pupil, denying them education and so on, therefore Nigerians is known they all over around they run to other countries claim Asylum, so they could illicit whatever, Secondly am not Interrested about Private Sector been white owned. We blacks in SOWETO dont wanna be even mix with white SOUTH AFRICANS, WE definetly dont like you pupil, NIGERIANS will deal with you.
nhlanhla mngomezulu on November 17, 2009, 1:22 pm
@Boboma Koroma, If Nigeria has Human Capital to benefit from then its important to use that advantage, if is oil then set up oir reserves for exploration. If is crime assist their government to set up Good Prisons or Rehabilitations Centres and profit legitimately from their system.

But for the fact that affrimative action is the only solution for South African Black Brother you stand to be corrected this is a policy derictive from the past mistakes made by apartheid, and this mistakes are being paid legitimately so,Boboma Koroma we are not shamed of that and we cannot live outside SA. Common what will one do in an area not liveable and Congested to brim? why you decided to come over is because of greener pastures or opportunities? So why leave places that have more opportunities and venture into the darkness alone!

To be nasty Boboma the real reason that we need science and maths teachers you know it very well and we cannot hide that fact rather let me say this again. Human Cpaital can be explored anywhere and its cheaper in Nigeria and secondly you are a good waste for our usage. third even if you will find this difficult its precisely to ensure that we deal effectively with the likes of You be it at Hospitals Jails and Home Affairs and ensure that we treat You well so you can make Africa particularly South Mzanzi your second Home. I like this topic Boboma, I hope in future your Oil crisis in the delta makes you see a better picture. Wiseman.
Thembile Mnyakama on November 17, 2009, 3:10 pm
@Koroma, WHY did you leave your country? Child rape happens alot in your dark country, UNUNGU STATE for an example, WHITE business thrives well well in NIGERIA yes, lots of you need this products you never had or new of before, REALLY SOUTH AFRICANS by that we BLACK SOUTH AFRICANS we see no reason to go out scrounge in other countrys, I find it good having NIGERIANS in some sectors and WHAT a pity they should stay home and help their own ailling pupil, BRAIN DRAIN, thanks GOD we PROFIT which is clear UNIVERSITYS, HOSPITALS is desaster in NIGERIA. ANYWAY have fun and WELCOMED in SOUTH AFRICA.
nhlanhla mngomezulu on November 17, 2009, 3:45 pm
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