Accusations fly over xenophobia in De Doorns

It is easy for some people to say they want foreigners to be re-integrated and our own is suffering as we speak.

Only unless ours weren't retrenched or sidelined because these people take very less than average salaries on our people expense.

I do understand they have these rights as refugees but it looks like South Africans will be the ones who needs to refuge somewhere else and whose liberation is this exactly.
It will be fine if they get accomodated accordingly and we get rid of those who came in with corrupt missions in ours.People know who those come from.

um, people actually on the ground are saying [or so i heard on the radio today] that they are getting paid similar wages to south africans, more if you count the labor brokers' fees.

nice try.

this isn't limpopo or either eastern province [heh]. the authorities here have this thing about checking documentation and pay for workers. imagine that.

Maybe if the average unskilled worker in SA would actually want to do an honest days work for an honest days pay they would be unemployed or losing jobs to people who are just grateful for any opportunity to provide for themselves. But no it's easier to blame someone else for your misfortune than actually do something constructive about it. And trying to kill someone just because they have a better work ethic than you isn't constructive....

There are labour laws that prevents companies from paying employees below minimum wage; however, there are employer that opt for foreign employee as they know very well that they will be will to be an incostitent wages is also way below minimum. They know that these people can't not complain as they are Illegally here. Labour department needs to be firm about this. I trust that Mr Manyi will be up for this difficult challenge.

Employing South Africans is unpleasant, painful, counterproductive and expensive.

Foreigners do a better days work. Foreigners are energetic and productive.

South Africans like to burn and kill.

While I can understand how our unemployed fellow South Africans feel and I myself would not employ any other but South Africans, I can see why people are prefering to employ foreigners even if it is for the wrong reasons. Our labour laws are such that once you employ someone it is almost impossible and costly to get rid of them no matter what. This pushes business' who are battling to survive in this, the recession unfortunately to using unethical means of employing workers. I myself had an instance last year of a staff member been caught stealing, even though well paid and lots of perks, I had to spend a lot of money to keep within the labour law rules with paying for an independent chair person at the disciplinary hearing, and thus be able to terminate his employment. Now I may believe that even after this fiasco I will not employ refugees, but others may not think the same as I do.
If our own people would work hard and be thankful that they have a job and not make unrealistic demands through striking, they would not have their jobs been taken by foreigners. There is constant worker unrest and to be honest their demands are more than often ridiculous. Then there is the CEO and top management getting these high salaries and bonuses, which furthercompounds the problem by causing resentment of the workers and leads to labour unrest. If the selvish greed was not there and our government had not opened our borders so freely, we would not have had the problems we now have. What ever the case may be, that my fellow South Africans behaved in such a despicable manners towards the refugees is disgusting.

Well, if Zuma created those 500 000 REAL jobs (not temporary public participation projects) the south africans will have work.And we could avoid these xenophobic attacks. Now the south africans (mostly ANC electorae) blame the foreigners for the (another) failed election promise by the ANC.

Let us take a step back and examine WHY the Zimbabweans are here in the first place. It is because Robert Mugabe buggered up his country while our government stood back and watched. (Remember Mr African-solutions-for-African-problems Mbeki? Yes, he is the same bloke as Mr Crisis-What-Crisis-Mbeki!) Then we just allowed them to STREAM into our country, with absolutely no control. We should have aknowledged that there was a problem and set up refugee camps on the border. But this would have put Mugabe in a precarious position, so it was never done! I also agree with Pearson when he says that it is unpleasant to employ South Africans. I know that this is a huge generalisation, but many of them are arrogant, lazy & unproductive. They have the backing of the govt and very tight labour laws, but the employer is all on his own. They need to realise that NOBODY owes them a living. You have to get off your butt and work to get anywhere in life!

I think employers have the right to employ whoever they want to employ immigrant or not, but they should be forced to comply with the Basic Conditions of Employment.

This will allow fair competitition amongst workers, as they will be paid for the work well done not because of where they come from.

But, as we are all aware that hiring foregners means low salary, no rights at all, therefore, total flounder of the laws and human rights of workers and dignity.

...and what about an ex-farmer who's farm house was burgled and set on fire there last night? Nothing could be salvaged from the house and only the brick walls remain. He sold his farm many years ago but still resides in one of the houses. The guilty was caught and apparently stated that he will be back as he is not finished with what he started.