'I was right about the left'

Zuma, Malema and Billy are not fighting for socialism. Blade, Vavi and Cronin are fighting for socialism. Ergo, they're fighting against each other. So, what's the point of the tripartite alliance?

Jon...The SACP should know their place in the alliance!

Jon, i think the journalist in question failed to ask what Billy is fighting for.

For a socialist society is cast in concrete within the ANC doctrine. In fact, the Freedom Charter's demands are of a socialist nature. Maybe that would have gotten Billy in a tangle. Poor journalism, with the journalist not LISTENING, but rather asking pre-determined questions.

I was left about the right should be the heading...

Billy must be very stupid - he first used Mbeki - then JZ - now he is using Malema to advance his carreer in politics - how long does he think his tricks will sustain him - he is actually hell bent on destroying the ANC and we are watching - his utterances smeck of one without brains . The ANC must be weary of him - perhaps even in exile he is one of those who got our brothers and sisters killed.He is the one who created a lot of problem for the NIA and Kasrils managed to see this unfortunately he could not get him out and he used an opportunity of supporting JZ as a ticket now he sees Malema as a ticket to the top - he has to get his priorities right for he is destroying one thing that we value and that is the ANC - I want to call on all who love this country to start noting his distructive lineages and curb them

People should see how Billy operate - when he and Malema were booed he stayed behind for he keeps his bread buttered on both sides - Billy is a user - members of the alliance must guard agains his kind - he stayed for he knew that the focus will shift to Malema - as a member of both the ANC and SACP i'm very disturbed by his like - the leadership must start looking at this - i think the ANC has been infiltrated by people who are hell bend on their carrers only and don't care about the masses out there - he is claiming this is a supported by a lot of ANC members and i think he is talking hog - perhaps the wine drinkers ; sigar smokers and wisky drinkers but people on the ground do not support his utterances.

Policians should have thicker skins and not be such cry-babies when they get boo'ed.
Grow up. IF you're an idiot politician, eventually even your own party will booo you out the door, no matter who you are or from which party...

Hi Billy, are you left or right?
"Depends who is asking"

@George Annandale

He does not know which side he's on - he is a confused moron - he is actually a stirer - the Alliance has to keep watch of him - he is a shrewd ;cunning; manipulating opportunist. I do not know who he is going to use after Motlanthe and Malema - i do not want to talk about Malema matric results but he must be careful whose company he keeps for Billy is very dangerous and he might bring Malema down to advance himself

The ANC are leftwing BEE capitalist with lumpen proletariat voters who don't understand communism.

Sometimes we tend to find ourselves getting carried away by the events we observe happening in front of us. Once we do such, we run the risk of not concentrating on the facts before us. It's important that we alawys base our arguments on facts, not our wishes, guys. Take the issue of Billy Masethla, for instance. If I remember well, he was taken to court on a charge relating to an operation by the NIA, NOT that he caused problems for the NIA. He did NOT cause a lot of problems for the NIA. He was found NOT guilty in that court case. So, what is said on this issue above is totally misleading.

The ANC has a lot of people who are just interested in furthering their careers. In fact, there are a lot of such people. The danger exists during poisoned times like this one, that we can end up using very unproductive methods in advancing our points of view. One such way, for example, is to label whoever is opposed to our point of view as this or that. The case of Malema calling Jeremy Cronin a "white messiah" is one example of such unproductive of conducting a debate. Every member of any organisation in the tripartite alliance should be free to raise whatever opinion he would like, without worrying about the possibility of being labelled this or that. For me, labelling of other people is just a cheap way of trying to silence those people from the debate. So, the ANC and the SACP should welcome open debate from their members.

The ANC is a broad church, as it has always been described. That means that it has communists and non-communists within its ranks. None of these members should view each other as enemies, NO. No should the SACP view the non-communist ANC members as enemies. They are not.

Alliances are made of independent organizations. That is why they are called alliances. The same should be understood about the tripartite alliances. The ANC is different from the SACP, and is also different from COSATU. If they had the same policies, there should not be any reason for them to exist as separate organisations, they would have had to merge long time ago. If everybody were to accept these facts, there would be less squabbles and confusion. People would tolerate each other more. I just hope that sense prevails at the end, like it has always been before, whenever we've had such mischief by some individuals.

It is not like labeling people but Billy moves are very predictable.In circles of the ANC he was regarded as a man close to TM.In the NIA what he was accused of sanctioning operations clandestine and illegally yes he got acquited for he had a scape goat in Kunene.After all this he did not want to be alliened with TM - relationships don't just end that way . i want to urge all to be carefull of him.He is actually preparing his nest - he is actually a man of low self esteem that is why he is using his relations to advance himself. please note that this is not calling names with an open mind Mandla you can see how he manipulates all situations . As for Malema his utterances to Cronin were ill adviced - the SACP is not against nationalization - the course to nationalization should be well directed not ambushed - ambushing it can be disastrouse and there will be no winners - it will not benefit those it was designed advance. With the taking over of the ANC that is a dump aspesion. I know Billy type see the SACP as a small party because of it's membership the one point they miss is the influence it wield in the masses - the ANC must continue to lead with the support of the Party and thers Alliance partners - failing which it will self distruct and the objective of the revolution will not be achieved - why does COPE fail - it fails primarily because of the ideologies not advansing the interest of the former oppressed and aligning itself with the rich and the former oppressor parties

South Africa is a kakistocracy !

"The question of labelling, which I mentioned above, simply refers mainly to Julius calling Malema a "White Messiah". That was simply uncalled for."

Julius called himself a "white messiah"? When?

At the time that Mbeki was being hounded using the tactics perfected by the Mbalulas and Malemas of this world, the same tactics they now cry foul about, I mentioned that the ANC is a cross held organisation. At that time it was the alliance itself. An alliance of Cosatu representing the voting workers, SACP representing the ideology of rule by the proletariat, then disparate individuals unaligned calling themselves the ANC. The first two have names, are organised and are the kingmakers. At one time many an ANC NEC member belonged to either or both.

When did Montlanthe cease to be a Communist? The list is endless. For the likes of Mbeki to be members of the SACP was more informed by Cold War alliances in effect being membership of the USSR and Chinese Communist Parties than being a member of the SACP. In fact membership and sympathies of the SACP are more abused than that of the ANC. It is the ticket to the ANC powered gravy train.

The ANC is nothing but a brand whose hegemony was entrenched by Mbeki and other intelligentsia of South African popular culture. Its membership to me a capitalist rarely sounds as lucid or erudite as say Patrick Craven, Makgetla or Cronin (sorry these may be white Messiahs). It does not have even an immigration policy and after yesterday can say no climate change policy also (being openly contrarian would have been better). In an era of 90% less racial vindictiveness (which to an extent is still driven by some white people's attitude) the masses would see the empty suits for what they really are. The continent and the rest of the world when not patronising us are no longer amazed by our leadership.

I'm very disappointed in that Bylly does not even know how many times the ANC was saved from his likes by the SACP - the last time that the SACP - the last time not so long that the Allince partners saved the ANC is only last year with the formation of SHIHOTA(COPE) - does Billy or Malema together with those who support their clandestine bevaviour remember this..

Malema and his like should know that if they cry because of being booed they cannot protect or defend the ANC like he says - people who defend the ANC never claim and they don't cry - they are made of stern material the material that does not corode or change .

From his utterances Malema cannot fight for the ANC and a lot of those he say support him cannot defend the ANC - they are only defending their narrow interest. The SACP has always resurrected the ANC from the Malema and Billy likes and it will always do that.Malema and his cohoots does not have the skin to do that - they cannot allow themselves to be dirtied - people who will always defend the ANC are not afraid to be soiled.