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President Jacob Zuma has put out a statement confirming his child with Irvin Khoza's daughter, while lambasting the media for criticising him. A media storm erupted this past week around weekend reports that Zuma (67) had fathered a possible 20th child with his old friend and soccer tycoon Irvin Khoza's daughter, Sonono (39). But Zuma on Wednesday confirmed his relationship and his child with Sonono Khoza and added that he had taken responsibility for his actions. "I said during World Aids Day that we must all take personal responsibility for our actions. I have done so. "I have done the necessary cultural imperatives in a situation of this nature, for example the formal acknowledgement of paternity and responsibility, including the payment of inhlawulo to the family," Zuma said in a statement issued on his behalf by the Presidency. Personal "The matter is now between the two of us, and culturally, between the Zuma and Khoza families." Zuma bemoaned the naming of the child's parents in public, which had "essentially exposed her to the public, which has serious implications in the long term for her, and amounts to the exploitation referred to in the Act, because the media is making money out of the matter. "The media is also in essence questioning the right of the child to exist and fundamentally, her right to life. It is unfortunate that the matter has been handled in this way," he said. The Sunday Times reported that Zuma fathered a child with Sonono, the daughter of World Cup local organising committee chairperson Irvin Khoza. The child was reportedly born on October 8, three months before Zuma -- a polygamist -- married for a fifth time. The baby girl was said to be the president's 20th child. According to the Sunday Times, a delegation acting on Zuma's behalf visited the Khoza family in December to discuss the Zulu customary damages, inhlawulo, that are due when a child is born out of wedlock. Igniting fresh controversy, The Times reported on Wednesday it had evidence suggesting that Zuma and Khoza were already married according to customary law, which would bring his number of wives to four. -- Sapa Below is the full text of the release: 3 February 2010 STATEMENT BY PRESIDENT JACOB ZUMA ON MEDIA REPORTS ABOUT HIS CHILD I have noted recent media reports about aspects of my personal life. I have noted too that these reports have been the subject of much discussion in the public arena by various organisations and people from all walks of life. I have therefore decided, after some careful deliberation, to make public comment on a matter that is otherwise intensely personal. I had been out of the country when this matter arose. I confirm that I have a relationship and a baby with Ms Sonono Khoza. I said during World Aids Day that we must all take personal responsibility for our actions. I have done so. I have done the necessary cultural imperatives in a situation of this nature, for example the formal acknowledgement of paternity and responsibility, including the payment of inhlawulo to the family. The matter is now between the two of us, and culturally, between the Zuma and Khoza families. It is unfortunate that the individuals concerned have been unfairly subjected to harsh media exposure merely because of the position that I occupy. Our Constitution and our laws require us to protect children from harmful public exposure. The Constitution states that it is inappropriate to place at risk, the child’s well-being, physical or mental health, spiritual, moral or social development. Both the Child Care Act and the new Children’s Act also provides for the protection of children from exploitation. The naming of the child’s parents has essentially exposed her to the public, which has serious implications in the long-term for her, and amounts to the exploitation referred to in the Act, because the media is making money out of the matter. The media is also in essence questioning the right of the child to exist and fundamentally, her right to life. It is unfortunate that the matter has been handled in this way. I sincerely hope that the media will protect the rights of children. Much has been made of the government’s policy on HIV and Aids and this relationship. It is mischievous to argue that I have changed or undermined government’s stance on the HIV and Aids campaign. I will not compromise on the campaign. Rather we will intensify our efforts to promote prevention, treatment, research and the fight against the stigma, attached to the epidemic. We will also continue with our campaign to ensure that every South African knows their HIV status, and that all those who need it have access to appropriate treatment. We respect and uphold the freedom of the media. It is one of the freedoms we fought for, and which we will always defend. However, the President of the Republic, the mother and the baby are also entitled to the rights afforded to all South Africans in the Constitution. These rights cannot be waived just because of a position one occupies. I would request that the dignity and privacy of the affected individuals in this matter be respected. Issued by the Presidency Union Buildings TOPICS IN THIS ARTICLE
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Why now? 4 days later. Could it be that he couldn't squirm out of this one? Notice how he turns it around and blames the media? He should have thought of that poor child BEFORE he decided to procreate! Besides, somebody wasn't very happy and let the media know. I wonder who?
Tiger Lily on February 3, 2010, 4:48 pm
Inhlawulo is an ARV? Who knew?
Kerry Day on February 3, 2010, 5:02 pm
I wonder how many other of Zuma's "love childs" there are out there?
Soutie Biltong on February 3, 2010, 5:43 pm
Well, for those of us who were puzzled about Zuma's 'Nation Building Strategy' - its become quite clear to me now. Add and replace!
Terrence Johnson on February 3, 2010, 5:46 pm
Soutie, think about it. He was married 5X. He currently has 3 wives. He had no children from his deceased wife and supposedly none from nkosi dlamini zuma. That leaves the 3 wives and a fiance. Between them they have 11 children. That leaves 9 children from????????
Tiger Lily on February 3, 2010, 5:54 pm
I wonder how many of these "love children's" lives this man is involved in. Surely he can't have the time to give each the attention they need as if he is not bonking he is partying or pretending to work!
Tiger Lily on February 3, 2010, 6:01 pm
Comrade President Jacob Gedleyihlekisa Zuma, a belated congratulations on the birth of your child, a decision no doubt reached by consenting adults. It is indeed unfortunate that there are individuals and institutions (eg. the general SA media) out there who have used this opportunity to feed their insatiable appetite for sensationalism, without considering the consequences that their actions would have (ie. on a minor). They expect an apology from you, when you have done nothing of a criminal nature or contravened the conditions of the South African constitution. They flout their misunderstanding of freedom of expression and freedom of press to do nothing else but fuel their 'sociopathic' lust to derail our national democratic revolution.
These misguided (by the media) and confused individuals, Comrade President ....... well they can kiss my ass !!!
The Moxster on February 3, 2010, 6:24 pm
"The media is also in essence questioning the right of the child to exist and fundamentally, her right to life." God - you have to admire the audacity of the president's spokesperson - talk about a twisted piece of rhetoric. Clearly the ANC are scraping the bottom of the barrel, desperately searching for issues with which to slap the media over the wrists. Haha hahaha -- anyone teaching school kids out there how avoid an issue - this latest from the president's desk will give you a mine of bullshit.
Ella Hume on February 3, 2010, 6:26 pm
@Moxter: so you really think, the parents chose to have a child as a consequence of their unprotected sex 1 year ago? before zuma officially married his 3rd wive? thats what you want to make us believe? seriously? funny little man you are...
i mean, man, if a cheat is so obvious, i would be very quite about it duck it through, unlike you posting funny stories about zuma lovely family plannings....
milli ways on February 3, 2010, 6:32 pm
Oh well, at least he has been honest about it. Under the previous administration we would have had the 'enforcers' EP and RSR attacking all critics, denying everything, labelling critics and terrifying everyone into quivering silence. Mr Zuma is not the best president SA could have, but he is by no means the worst.
Mark Robertson on February 3, 2010, 6:36 pm
The President is now preaching "dignity" to the media?
He's coming off a pretty low base. Whatever happened to the moral highground Mr President?
Peter Auld on February 3, 2010, 6:45 pm
The Moxster, "they want an apology from you when you have done nothing wrong". In a man's eyes he has done nothing wrong while in a woman's eyes he is a lying, cheating rat! He breeds them and then walks away to let somebody else take care of them. This male chauvanistic culture thing is disgusting and he should apologise to the women in this country for setting such a bad example. He sends out a message that women are there for the taking! Yes they are adults but he is using his power to his own advantage! See, Moxster that is the difference between the way little men see it and the way women see it!
Tiger Lily on February 3, 2010, 6:46 pm
He's the worst, by a very long margin. A disgrace.
Atlas Reader on February 3, 2010, 6:48 pm
Thats cool - you can screw around as much as you like, procreate like the worlds coming to an end, all of this out of wedlock, and when anything bad happens you just buff it over with inhlawulo. Please people, Moxster and co, you have to be joking ?!
Pasta Bag on February 3, 2010, 7:17 pm
Pres Francois Mitterand of France had a love child.
Did this make him a laughing stock ? No, actually he became more popular. The fact is the French admire a man that "gets around". I'ts part of their culture, believe it or not.
Oom Piet on February 3, 2010, 7:17 pm
He is behaving like a real dog.
Les Wil on February 3, 2010, 7:33 pm
Please Les, don't equate that man with a dog. Dogs only breed when a bitch is on heat! This man can't keep his zip up when he sees a woman in a skirt! He's got no self control and no moral backbone!
Tiger Lily on February 3, 2010, 7:55 pm
Your point oom piet is the French are also pigs.
Pasta Bag on February 3, 2010, 8:03 pm
Too bad, he is falling by his own sword. Only jesus can deliver one from such shame. Devils rewards. Jesus love JZ, I cant judge him.
Phila Elvis on February 3, 2010, 8:40 pm
How are you going to afford to raise 20 children Mr Zuma? That's the point. Someone draw him a picture.
Points West on February 3, 2010, 9:14 pm
@Moxter- Zuma and the ANC don't really care about any of you or your opinions. You can defend them as much as you like. The only thing they want is you giving them access to Tax Revenues. If they really cared about this country they would have done something about unemployment, corruption and crime, but they haven't. But you can go on and blindly defend and support them.
If Zuma really gave a toss about public opinion he would have considered not having a child out of wedlock. You can't claim that you are a polygamist because you are open and honest about your relationships and don't want to keep mistresses and concubines. Then still have a child out of wedlock. This guy is liar and a thief but they will vote for him because he can sing a couple of songs and do a dance or two.
Mike Jones on February 3, 2010, 9:27 pm
Watched the news on TV for a change tonight. Even our educators cannot pass the exams set for matric student - what a joke, but then I knew that some years back, the ANC push for colour and not competency, and in doing so insult my competent black colleagues. Maybe we should follow the Giggy Jacob approach and sleep with anyone as a solution to our problem. Please see the rest of the worlds perspective on JZ - it is embarrasing now given the 2010 WC. Well done ANC, you have made our country look like a bunch of idiots.
Pasta Bag on February 3, 2010, 10:36 pm
Eish... I think the prez had put this job out on sub-contract. You know, at his age, one will have to delegate when your schedule becomes too hectic. One just hopes that Zumpies had the sub-contractor checked out for competence and health hazards - you know, Zumps is probably still waiting for his final HIV result after the stortkop scandal. Lets just take stock: Is this the same Zumpies who was the ANC delegate for the ANC`s "Moral Revival Committee"? Eish, but I find myself to be confused now...
JJ Cybersniper on February 3, 2010, 10:57 pm
Just read Moxsters comment and Giggy Jacobs : "without considering the consequences that their actions would have (ie. on a minor)" and "The naming of the child’s parents has essentially exposed her to the public, which has serious implications in the long-term for her, and amounts to the exploitation referred to in the Act". Picture JZ and Khoza thought regarding the potential outcome of their actions - .....- yep nothing. Now that they are being questioned as to the message they send they try and blame everyone else except their own logic. Hang on, there was no logic was there, it was plain and simple animal lust, no thought, no processing of potential outcome, no utilisation of a rubber or any other form of prevention. What Zuma is telling everyone is go and sow them oats - it is good. So if you really want us to believe that the outcome was thought out and planned, go smoke that Durban weed again. JZ was probably drunk, and took advantage of a situation, and now is trying to tell everyone else that he is okay and that they are idiots. That is the African way after all.
Pasta Bag on February 3, 2010, 10:57 pm
insofar as a leader is representative of his party .......... how far the anc has drifted from its founding principles. the rot is pervasive. its time for the anc to breakup and the individual components to take their individual places in elections. Finally true democracy can visit this land.
david hotz on February 3, 2010, 11:22 pm
We still call him our President after this confession. Then our country has bigger issues that we perceive. JZ actions are not of a leader and we are not suppose to continue to entertain him. Tools down South Africans he must step down now!!! This is urgent.
Nosisi Feza-Piyose on February 4, 2010, 12:06 am
Outsourcing is so ingrained in the government culture that even with multiple wives, he isn't able to do everything in house.
Philip Machanick on February 4, 2010, 12:46 am
Mitterand's love-child was kept a very tight secret for years and years and when her presence was finally revealed, Mitterand's reign came to an end within the space of a few weeks.
That's how dim a view most Frenchmen have of adulterers in high office.
Atlas Reader on February 4, 2010, 5:22 am
It was only a matter of time. Start with a suspected rape + fraud allegation. Him and Malema will be good buddies!!
John Strydom on February 4, 2010, 5:38 am
Zapiro should attach the shower again.
Fat Rat on February 4, 2010, 5:49 am
Zuma has nine illegitimate children?......I don't believe this is in anyone's culture. If by some outside chance somebody can spin and twist it to be culturally acceptable, then it is blatantly wrong and must change if humans are going to survive on this earth. Just because something is culturally acceptable doesn't make it right. (Burning witches, slavery, ect)
Mark Mywords on February 4, 2010, 5:57 am
....and the ANC's Moral Degeneration Campaign shifts up another gear! Talk about spin doctoring.... it took Zuma's media team 4 days to concoct this lump of "1984" mumbo-jumbo double-speak released by the president's office yesterday.
Fact: Mr Zuma is a serial philanderer, he has confessed to at least 2 occasions where he has bonked without a condom outside of his marriage/s. I am betting there are more as he only owns up to these activities when he's actually caught "with his trousers down". Fact: No matter what the ANC has to say this "don't do as I do, do as I say" approach is no way to drive a national HIV/AIDS campaign that is trying to encourage people to practice safe sex. If it is an effective method then let's have the minister of health on TV smoking a cigarette while telling us that tobacco is harmful to our health! Fact: Mr Zuma's "Zulu Culture" is pulled out of the cupboard whenever it is convenient to him, otherwise he appeals to our constitution to wriggle off the hook whenever he is busted. Tell me Mr Zuma, our constitution established absolute equality between men and woman right? So you'd be totally cool with one of your wives telling you that she has had a child with another man and that she intends marrying him while remaining on as one of your wives (with all those lovely perks funded by the tax-payers). Eina! Sorry, was that a bit too close to the proverbial bone(er) Mr President?
Cliff Smith on February 4, 2010, 5:59 am
HAHAHAHAHAHAH I think this is hilarious. Anyway, I too would like to admit that I have had one of Zuma's love children. Now, I need my bond paid and a few million for the upbring of the kid. Fortunately the baby is as cute as a button and does not have that growth on the back of its head like its father, Who do I need to contact about he guilt payments? Anyone know?
Apoc Rules on February 4, 2010, 6:06 am
Please M&G, this story is begging for an expose on the exact origin of all 20 offspring. If Zuma is a proud father, with nothing to hide (he clearly feels that he has done nothing wrong judging from his statement) he should be only too happy to supply you with the details.
...but I'll not be holding my breath.
free speech on February 4, 2010, 6:16 am
The Moxster on February 3, 2010, 6:24 pm , Moxy, at least you had the balls to come on the forum, even though what you said still does not deal at all with the actions of this ass. Anyway, how on earth do you know that this act was concentual? It is also part of the black mans culture to just take the woman ready or not. Who's to say the shower head didn't do a nasting on this girl and have his was with her while she was getting ice from the freezer during a rendition of Nkosi Sikele, huh huh huh!!!
Apoc Rules on February 4, 2010, 6:17 am
Shame ....my heart bleeds for the innocent child and family...someone of his "wisdom" should've thought of these things.
Perhaps his wisdom is concentrated in the little head and the brains was flushed out by the wicked shower attachment Instead of showing remorse the sex fiend demonises the media and all those appaled by his behaviour See http://letterdash.com/g.annandale/zuma-missives
George Annandale on February 4, 2010, 6:17 am
@ Mike, come on now.... do you think that the white colonizers and the apartheid government has done any better than the ANC? Mxm wake up and smell the coffe, the best thing that has happened to this country is the ANC. Some say it is NOT working for them... oh I have some words for them: the ANC is working for me and many others.Alright that is in the past lets talk about the current administration the best that has led this country since Jan Van Riebek. One other thing that I would like to raise is that Zuma has been subject to criticism mostly by "white people" I do not hear you people criticise Zille or calling for her to appologise. WTF? Call me whatever you want to call me but deep down you know that what I am saying is the God-honest-truth!
Papikie Mohale on February 4, 2010, 6:20 am
The best quote of the week from the presidential circus. "The media are guilty of child abuse for reporting the names of the parents of this child". No, Mr Hamster (ummmm president) you are responsible for your own actions and for creating a child out of wedlock! You made your bed, now lie in it you lying cheating rat. And to those Zuma defenders. The difference between him and Clinton, Baluscoli, Mitterand or any other your wish to name is that they all had ONE wife and ONE mistress. Our hamster has THREE wives and who knows how many mistresses. Where does this idiot get time to run the country? Where does this idiot get time for all those 20 children? If this were a civilised country he would have been out of office by now. Unfortunately we live in a country where men view women (and children), as objects put on this earth for their gratification, hence the high rape count. And then you still have idiots defending him and pushing this culture crap down our throats.
Tiger Lily on February 4, 2010, 6:22 am
Hey Prez Heffner... Stop blaming the media. Its the majority of South Africans that thinks you're a filthy lying cheating dog. And if your culture condones cheating and sleeping around, well, that is a uncivilised culture. You're a deeply disturbing personality; i guarantee that we'll see more disgraceful personal acts from you!
One can only argue; if you cant control your Johnson and your personal life, WTF are you doing in politics? You are a immoral beacon to south africa. SIES!!! What a disgrace you are!!
moloko moloko on February 4, 2010, 6:23 am
Zuma, did your previous rape victim also receive some inhlawulo to keep her mouth shut?
moloko moloko on February 4, 2010, 6:26 am
Did she ask for a taxi fare?
Mercedes Benz comrade on February 4, 2010, 6:28 am
Ag, Moxster, if we are to line up and kiss your ass, you'll have to take your head out of it first.
Kerry Day on February 4, 2010, 6:39 am
Kerry, hahahahahahah
Apoc Rules on February 4, 2010, 6:45 am
Congratulations to comrade Jacob Zuma on his child. God bless you and your families. We also wish to welcome a new member into the ANC family.
We will continue to rally behind you as the president of our country. Keep up the excellent work as president.
Bluntly Spoke on February 4, 2010, 6:53 am
I dont see any opposition winning the election in my lifetime. They are weak weak weak. They should concentrate on how they can better the lives of South Afrcans and identify what the ANC is not doing, instead they are distructing themselves by discusing peoples personal matters. They must forget about politics and join the media.
Teddy Maema on February 4, 2010, 6:55 am
This is not the Zulu Culture but the Zuma Culture.. Dis u take Shower.
This Zuma Monster must step down, you can't still be called Mr President. I have never seen you as my President and never will, you are a disgrace to this country (Promoting Sexual Immorality)
ZZ Marhanga on February 4, 2010, 6:57 am
Can we please stop talking about Zuma and his love affairs and donate clothes, money and food for the people of Haiti. Thanks and God bless you all today!!!
African Mzansi on February 4, 2010, 7:05 am
Congratulations to the President on his beautiful baby daughter! Indeed we in the ANC welcome another member of our extended family! The Prez has indeed demonstrated that he is a real man and at his age he is surely putting guys like Apoc, Moloko, Cliff SMith and others to shame!
nkosi sikelele on February 4, 2010, 7:06 am
It's always someone else's fault. Now it's the media? As for "taking responsibility" for the child? Does a single payment of inhlawulo take care of it? A single payment? No maintenance? No wonder there are so many absent African fathers. The argument that this type of behaviour undermines the Moral Regeneration Moverment isn't disingenious.... this is exactly what it's trying to avoid: Unwed pregnancies and fatherless children. No one in the media has questioned the child's right to exist. It's the child's right to have a dad that is the real problem..... Mr President....
Marius de Kock on February 4, 2010, 7:07 am
Heh heh heh -- thanks guys - was reading your comments over morning coffee - moloko, kerry, apoc, cigar & cognac, etc ... heh heh -- thanks for starting the day with a chuckle (I loved moloko's "President Heffner!")
Ella Hume on February 4, 2010, 7:10 am
Just like his rape case...if it wasn't for his accuser or the media do you think he would come out and tell the nation of his crahp!!! He is dishonest and should deserves to fall on face preferebly with a STD like aids hopefully...who knows maybe he's got it???
Craig Smith on February 4, 2010, 7:13 am
Only God can save Mzansi.
Poetic Me on February 4, 2010, 7:27 am
Wow! he certainly loves the media spotlight. This is the same guy who has rape,corruption charges, back to back marriages and now yet another child, what's next impregnating one of the female ministers maybe. And ladies what happened to pride, 39 and 67 the guy could be her father, after all he's friends with her father. I've never considered having sex with my friend's daughter surely it shows lack of respect. Please Msholozi, we have had more than a fare share of your surprises, you are breaking records for the wrong reasons.
norman mangena on February 4, 2010, 7:33 am
I look forward to more of uMsholozi's babies. We need to more young lions to roar and accelerate the process of economic transformation in this nation.
Aluta Continua
Bluntly Spoke on February 4, 2010, 7:34 am
If I slept with Elle McPherson, the world would know.
Why? Because SHE is a high-profiled person. What makes JZ's conquest immune to the media attention, where others aren't afforded the privilege? She sought the pubic .... ummm, public attention she exposed herself to. JZ cannot NOW claim that her life and the life of her child are compromised. Besides, HOW, does JZ propose that the media have ruined their lives. The media has ONLY exposed HIS!!!
Hugh Termorshuizen on February 4, 2010, 7:37 am
@ Nkosi Sikelele: The ability to knock up a woman outside of your marriage/s is the measure of a real man!?! Get real bro! It's called Fucking Around.
Any old fool can get a hard-on with a little help from Pfizer's little blue pill. Now why don't you be a real man and give coherent responses to the 3 Facts that I've posted above? Cannot?! Why am I not surprised?
Cliff Smith on February 4, 2010, 7:38 am
@ Bluntly Spoke:
Roaring Lions? More like fatherless feral urchins roaming the street digging in rubbish bins for their next meal. Have you not noticed that under the ANC administration our manufacturing sector is shrinking year after year, the poor are getting poorer, the only transformation will be a Zimbabwean style economic collapse. At least the people of Zimbabwe could jump the fence to their south to find work to keep their families back home alive, which fence are you going to jump Bluntly? No fence to the north worth jumping and in case it's been a while since you last looked in an atlas there's nothing but the cold Atlantic Ocean to the south of us.....
Cliff Smith on February 4, 2010, 7:43 am
Of course the president’s statement is full of holes and omissions; first and foremost he berates the media whilst his own actions (having an extra marital affair and fathering an illegitimate child) were wrong –even by his own Zulu culture’s standards. A little bit of humility and honesty would go a long way here.
“I had been out of the country when this matter arose.” -So what happened here? Was she flown (in secret) abroad? Or did he have his frozen semen flown over (by presidential jet)? LOL! “The matter is now between the two of us,” -You wish! How’s the man going to pay for the two new members of JZ’s own little clan? The (recurring) added security costs alone are going to run in the hundreds of thousands annually. Oh I see, WE have to pay for it But then it’s also OUR interests! “It is unfortunate that the individuals (he’s talking about the mother and HIS child here) concerned have been unfairly subjected to harsh media exposure merely because of the position that I occupy.” -True, but only NOW does he contemplate the consequences of his OWN actions, now he finally chooses to care. Although it’s of course not to me to suggest how individuals conduct their love- and marital life, seeing that JZ has a tendency to run into trouble, perhaps some considerations are appropriate. In future, if he fancies another daughter of a family member / friend: Court her. Publicise the relationship Marry her. Get as many children as he can muster, get big applause from the fan boys and girls. There will be still the howls in the media, because many think that four/twenty (known!) are “ample” –but not so bad that his spin doctors clearly can’t handle it and take a full four days before coming up with this very, very lame statement. “I would request that the dignity and privacy of the affected individuals in this matter be respected”. -I agree, lay off the woman (the child does not realise anything) Chances are this will not happen for long anyway. She is going to be number four and the child is number twenty. They will disappear in the multitude. Diversionary claptrap. Try to make the media feel guilty and shield behind a woman’s (and child) skirts –WHAT A HERO! By all means, throw the book at JZ, he has it coming. “Rather we will intensify our efforts to promote prevention, treatment, research and the fight against the stigma,“ -Then undeniably all this media brouhaha has a very positive spin off.
Twannie Herinck on February 4, 2010, 7:48 am
@ Free Speech: you wanted to know about JZ's kids. Read the Sowetan article: http://www.sowetan.co.za/News/Article.aspx?id=1110701
They traced 17 of his kids, and tell who are their mothers.
Kerry Day on February 4, 2010, 7:52 am
Moxter, I decline your invitation.
And seeing how very deep you creep up JZ’s orifice yourself, I’m sure that you’re too busy anyway with activities pertaining to the arse.
Twannie Herinck on February 4, 2010, 7:53 am
I have taken "responsibility"... The minimum amount for "inhlawulo" would be equal to the cost of two cattle and one goat, but could in some instances end up to be much more. Aggg... Throw in some chickens and we'll call it quits. This is so much better than having to pay real money every month to keep the child in nappies and shoes and school fees and food. It's surprising that any Zulus know their fathers at all, because for a one off payment of R20000-odd they "take responsibility" for "the situation".
Marius de Kock on February 4, 2010, 7:55 am
I wonder how many more invitations to visit our prez will get now he's demonstrated what a horny house guest he is?
Storm Ferguson on February 4, 2010, 8:05 am
The right thing to do would be to resign and get some help like the great golfer Tiger Woods has done! He needed help and so does our President need help.Show the tax payers some respect!!
jan Fenenga on February 4, 2010, 8:08 am
At the price of disposable diapers these days R20-000 will just cover the cost of nappies up to the age of 2....and nothing else....... nice Zulu custom that!
Cliff Smith on February 4, 2010, 8:09 am
Some men are more virile than others, so for those who are virile and have partners to sire some healthy offspring with please do so because we Africans are already an endangered specie. If our government had enough dough it can sponsor all those virile men and women who are not suffering from the hiv virus to have more kids to replace the 1000 who are dying of the pandemic everyday. There are enough resources for everyone, the only problem is that a lot of us are selfish. All our arguments are driven by greed.
Mikhael Gorbachev on February 4, 2010, 8:16 am
kerry day and Twannie, I wrote 'These misguided (by the media) and confused individuals, Comrade President ....... well they can kiss my ass !!!'
Now, I don't have a problem if you don't have the urge to kiss my proverbial ass, BUT I do take lots of pleasure from your admittance that you are misguided and confused. :-)
The Moxster on February 4, 2010, 8:23 am
Blunt Poke, we dont need any more "lions" you ass, we live in Africa. We need someone to run the damn country!!!!
Apoc Rules on February 4, 2010, 8:35 am
louise doidge Please go back to all your posts and tell me what do you see. If freud is anything to go by you are either suffering with whatever you accuse the president or you are painfully jealous that you cant do it? which is it. Shadow or projection?
M Gomez on February 4, 2010, 8:36 am
Not a day passes without Luise Dodge and Apoc Rules discussing Zuma. I think they each have a crush on him.
Bluntly Spoke on February 4, 2010, 8:41 am
Bluntly, u also talk about Zuma every single day, maybe u too have a crush or is currently having an extra marital affair with him.
Poetic Me on February 4, 2010, 9:04 am
Keep it light guys, come on
M Gomez on February 4, 2010, 9:11 am
I talk about Zuma and Malema because they are my leaders in the ANC and the country.
Bluntly Spoke on February 4, 2010, 9:42 am
The media is to blame for all this bullshit. They are the reason why we have this sorry excuse for a President. Because of their irrational hate for Thabo Mbeki (Who is by far the most moral and dignified politician in the counrty). They tried to paint Zuma off as a victim and that endeared him to the masses. Now the media wants to blame... who? Blame yourself for this promiscuous, sorry excuse for a human being. How revolting. Is Zuma for real?
Gretchen Lipinsky on February 4, 2010, 9:53 am
What scares me most is who the ANC will replace this horndog with when they get gatvol of this embarassment he is causing them and the country. Can you say "President Malema" without breaking out in a cold sweat?
Grant Olivier on February 4, 2010, 10:07 am
Moxter:
“BUT I do take lots of pleasure from your admittance that you are misguided and confused.” Illogical, not addressing anything but a sneer at your own vulgar expression –which is born out of depletion of sensible arguments to the issue.
Twannie Herinck on February 4, 2010, 10:19 am
what a poephol.
will mo on February 4, 2010, 10:37 am
Zuma is a real shame to this country. He can't be compared to anything or anyone in this world. So if it was according to me he should stepdown. And for those who supports him and his ideas i say shame on you for you're taking our country down.
Gaeonale Morwe on February 4, 2010, 10:53 am
Gretchen Lipinsky,
I agree with you to a certain extend. But do not forget that it was the ANC –and not the media, who elected said sorry excuse as their president. Whilst corruption certainly happened under T Mbeki, the greedy thieves at Polokwane knew well that it would be so much easier under JZ. He’s weak, corrupt to the hilt himself and he owes many favours to many. I short: an ideal president for those in the ANC top echelons who are corrupt to the hilt too. But a (tiny) example: The very costly presidential jet we still have at least. But the ridiculously expensive ministerial motor fleet will be sold to the ministers for R1 each when they will be replaced. Mbeki would have never allowed this, or “optional extras” on ministerial vehicles equal to the value of a mid-priced car. So it is in the end the ANC executive who benefit from the (justified) media uproar over a previous president in the making. And believe me; benefit they do! What should the media have done –be silent whilst Polokwane was going to happen anyway? (It was not alone that they favoured the underdog-puppet JZ, they also hated Mbeki’s strong, almost autocratic approach)
Twannie Herinck on February 4, 2010, 11:50 am
If the internet had been as prolific when slick Willy Clinton was erupting his climactic fluids all over Monica Lewinsky then I am sure there would have been just as much drivel on US blogs as above. Leave JZ alone man.
Pale Rider on February 4, 2010, 2:18 pm
i like the statement from Zuma. yita hola.
Aron Vusi on February 4, 2010, 2:19 pm
Clinton is no Zuma.
If Clinton had done 10% sexually of what JZ did, Hillary would have chopped off his penis. If he’d committed just 1% of JZ’s fraud and corruption, he'd have been impeached and replaced as president. But not here! In SA many actually like his actions. Incomprehensible. "Leave JZ alone man." No. He’s bad for SA and makes the whole of SA look like backward fools.
Twannie Herinck on February 4, 2010, 2:46 pm
What a misnomer - "love-child". It's a sex-child. We can also stop talking about the love affairs of the rich and famous across the world. They're sex afairs. Love has NOTHING to do with it. Helen
Helen Duigan on February 4, 2010, 3:44 pm
Somebody please tell Zuma that he stopped having a private life when he got too ambitious and wanted to the President; then he became a "Public Property", it's high time that he realise that he is blacklisting this country - shame on him! which other country has a leader like this? NONE! only South Africa, the irony is he doesn't see anything wrong with it, he hides behind culture. Phew!
Thandi nontenja on February 4, 2010, 5:13 pm
Atlas reader what you say about Mitterand is a figment of your imagination.
Here are the facts: Mitterand was President of France from 1981 to 1995. He never left office due to the announcement of his love child. He served out his full term until 1995. Mitterand is the longest-serving President of France, which proves how popular he was. Fact is the French admire a man who "gets around". It's part of their culture, believe it or not.
Oom Piet on February 4, 2010, 8:00 pm
By the way I couldn't care how many wives or lady friends Zuma has. (They are consenting adults).
The only problem I have is that taxpayers pay for his wives. This is wrong.
Oom Piet on February 4, 2010, 8:11 pm
Eish, I am without words! When other PRESIDENTS spend time thinking about their countries's problems and how to solve them, SA president is probably thinking...........................
Haii, people. Can't we ask him to step down?
Ramakhera Dikotsi on February 5, 2010, 11:01 am
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